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Joined: 09 Jun 2005 | Posts: 3611 | Location: San Diego
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my grandmother has a PhD in English and taught at the University of Wisconsin for quite a bit. naturally I grew up on the classics. Shakespeare is quite good of course and I've been in the Tempest and A Midsummer Night's Dream(my icon is myself in my fairy outfit ha ha). Last year in 8th grade english we read Love's Labours Lost and this year we're reading Romeo and Juliet(a bit cliche - but its good non the less). _________________ hello, i'm Ivy don't mind my username, it's oldoldold |
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Joined: 23 Dec 2004 | Posts: 318 | Location: the coast o' Maine
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i was also in a midsummers night dream my junior year of high school. i played one of the rude mechanicals.... the wall. _________________ But I cannot discover any advantage except in honor, in glory, and in right action. Therefore I consider these goals to be primary and supreme over all others. Cicero |
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Joined: 09 Jun 2005 | Posts: 3611 | Location: San Diego
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I think he's a little overrated. But I could careless either way. I'm neutral. _________________ myspace.xanga.deviantart.photography myspace. |
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Joined: 02 Aug 2005 | Posts: 434 | Location: Florida
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i enjoy his sonnets very much - excellent poetry. i like to read his work whenever i want to get my mind active, because the old english can be challenging to decipher, but once you do it totally blows your mind! they had powers of description that poets nowadays can only dream about. i really love some of his plays, like the merchant of venice and macbeth. as stories, they're all pretty creative and interesting, but sitting down and reading a play isn't really my idea of great fun. i did it with the two i mentioned, and had fun with it, but i've tried to read others and it doesn't work so well. i'm thinking of giving a midsummer night's dream another shot, though, since i like the plot. so yeah, i like shakespeare. i don't think he's over-rated, either. the volume of work he created is very impressive (even if it is disputed) - and the variety within that work is pretty dazzling too. _________________ Saellys wrote: Thank God for Arielle all your kind, they're coming clean they shut their eyes their mess, their scene |
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Joined: 02 Jul 2004 | Posts: 5273 | Location: i forget
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Joined: 02 Sep 2003 | Posts: 2455 | Location: Grapevine, TX
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amidthestars wrote: they had powers of description that poets nowadays can only dream about. (in reference to older English poets) I agree, to an extent. The difference is that today's poets try to convey emotion and feelings and experience, without using the typical "setting descriptions" and overly used metaphors. They focus on free flowing thought and realism, not romanticism and ideals. Like Shakespeare would say "Her lips were a rose, blooming and beckoning me" or something like that. Today's poets would say, "when she talks, she makes me want to fall into her face" or something. I don't know if that makes sense, but I wrote a paper on it a few years ago, the difference between todays poetry and yesterdays poets. I'm definitely not mocking Shakespeare The writing is ingenious, and for his time Revolutionary in the way it changed theater. And I love to read it. And his description is immaculate I just think that poets today are equally good. Think "The Decemberists" quality. I'm really tired. |
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Joined: 31 May 2004 | Posts: 2018 | Location: Sacramento, CA
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Joined: 10 Dec 2005 | Posts: 163 | Location: Tennessee
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publicprivacy wrote: there isn't a middle answer, and i don't do that black and white stuff. the middle answer is no opinion and yet want to give an opinion option.duh _________________ But I cannot discover any advantage except in honor, in glory, and in right action. Therefore I consider these goals to be primary and supreme over all others. Cicero |
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Joined: 09 Jun 2005 | Posts: 3611 | Location: San Diego
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Joined: 06 Nov 2005 | Posts: 1302 | Location: The Dalles, OR
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shakespeare is good. for poetry john dunn is better. _________________ The paradox of faith is this, that the individual is higher than the universal, that the individual (to recall a dogmatic distinction now rather seldom heard) determines his relation to the universal by his relation to the absolute, not his relation to the absolute by his relation to the universal. -Soren Kierkegaard, Fear and Trembling |
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Joined: 12 Dec 2005 | Posts: 19 | Location: washington, dc
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bjaurelio wrote: shakespeare is good. for poetry john dunn is better. John Donne? Yeah, he is better. My favorite in fact. _________________ Power is only pain It’s probably better to have him inside the tent pissing out, than outside the tent pissing in. "Can we get control of an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws of nature, such as self preservation?" -memo from 1952 Project ARTICHOKE |
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Joined: 19 Aug 2004 | Posts: 10565 | Location: Somewhere in the middle of nowhere
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shakespeare is good if you go see his plays acted out. shakespeare is horribly boring if you spend 2 months dragging through "othello" and going over every individual line. i think shakespeare should be banned from english teachers. his plays shouldn't be taught in a classroom. _________________ http://thegirlinthebearhat.tumblr.com/ |
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Joined: 04 Dec 2004 | Posts: 2702 | Location: central new york, massachusetts, london (soon)
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dont_panic wrote: shakespeare is good if you go see his plays acted out. shakespeare is horribly boring if you spend 2 months dragging through "othello" and going over every individual line.
i think shakespeare should be banned from english teachers. his plays shouldn't be taught in a classroom. i agree. studying him on your own is nice, watching his plays is nice, but analyzing every word is ridiculous. especially when your teacher has no idea what they're talking about. |
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Joined: 10 Nov 2005 | Posts: 1692 | Location: orange county, ca
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Joined: 28 Apr 2005 | Posts: 3505 | Location: In your dreams
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