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 Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:31 am 
I think if any one single on RN's had hit it huge, you would still be putting out the fires. Eisley would have been stamped forever as Christian, sibling, home-schooled, family managed, juvenile, sweet, safe and slightly retarded and less talented than endearing. The second album would have had to be produced to either perpetuate that image (for the label and the $$$) or to destroy it. Neither approach would give you the artistic freedom you have now. The big question here is not 'Why do crappy bands/individuals make it and good ones don't?' The real (scary) question is 'Why do some great bands make it and other great bands don't?' You have to have the complete package. Eisley does. Talent, management, intelligence, patience, respect for others, work ethic, personality, a solid and trustworthy support network, etcetera, etcetera. Most importantly, you have no enemies poised to rip your next full length apart. I think the opposite is true. People really, really want you to make it. All will be OK. I just know it. Cash flow issues are tiresome, but other issues would be far, far worse. |
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Joined: 26 Jul 2004 | Posts: 420 | Location: Cranberry Bog, MA
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:58 am
People still listen to the radio? 
I think I've said it before, but the US radio market is way too narrow for a band like Eisley. You've got the male-centric alt-rock station on one side, the adult-contemporary on the other side, and this huge gap in between, where younger, sensible, discerning music fans reside without anyone catering to their tastes. It's a HUGE oversight in the radio industry, in my opinion - there is a big niche to be filled. But until it is filled, I think Eisley will have a tough time getting radio play (unless they write angrier or less challenging music). As others have mentioned, though, many bands still have a good amount of commercial success without much radio support. And there is always video (it killed the radio star, after all) - I think Eisley have great potential in that medium, without having to sell out. And internationally, as Boyd said, I also see great things. It's just a matter of time. _________________ hello. |
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Joined: 23 Aug 2003 | Posts: 5978 | Location: Austin, Texas
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:03 am
It's kind of a shame how labels have to pay the big $$$ (illegally) to get their songs played on the radio. So, instead of pushing something that people really want, they have to "manufacture" something listenable to everything. I think its awesome that Eisley sold 64,000 albums. Thats $768,000 roughly in sales. But, its also sad that Eisley probably only sees about 1/20th of that collectively. I really thought Brightly Wound would have been an excellent single, I was really disapointed when its video got axed in pre-production. And, it does almost seem like the WB left Eisley out to dry. They pressured and pressured to have radio type songs like the new Telescope Eyes and My Lovely, but then never pushed for anything radiowise. But, I think in 2005, Eisley definitely proved that they are definitely going to play awesome music and amaze thousands of people doing it. _________________ EisleyForever wrote: you're A-list in my heart! MAKECOLDPLAYHISTORY |
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Joined: 20 Feb 2005 | Posts: 8868 | Location: Saturn, the Bringer of Old Age
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:33 am
ali wrote: People still listen to the radio? i haven't listened to the radio since forever... i like my mp3 
...when i was young i listened to the radio.... (ok i'm not old but it's been awhile since i've turned that thing on) _________________ - Heather ^^ |
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Joined: 26 Apr 2005 | Posts: 1597 | Location: Toronto, Ontario. Canada
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:43 am
today i was flipping through PASTE magazine.. and they had listed their top 100 albums of the year.. and ROOM NOISES was #9. #9!! thats pretty spectacular i think. not sure if anyone else has posted about this but i thought it would be a good encouraging bit to add to this thread. didnt it take radiohead a bit of time to make their way up up up uppp? and look at them now. |
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Joined: 23 Jun 2004 | Posts: 285 | Location: nashville, TN
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:03 pm
I might get flack for this post, but it's something I've been wanting to say, so, please don't kill me. Here' goes.... I think Eisley went the wrong way. There are essentially two ways to go with music. You either push the independent market, playing club tours on a smaller label with smaller press, building up your career until you are "famous" in an underground sense, (I hate that word) but not everybody knows your name. This can be done, and you can be successful monetarily. If you don't go that route, you go to the major market where you sign with a corporate label, have people pay to play your song, and do shows at smaller chain venues until (hopefully/possibly/not always) you are pushed to a status where you sell out huge venues, are plastered all over press outlets in regular circulation, and people are writing skits about you on SNL while you roll in the $chaching$. There are benefits to both, but at some point you have to choose what direction you want to go with your music. This is because there are certain environments designed to nurture growth in one way or the other. WB is a major label with a huge roster designed to bail out the company financially. I think Eisley, while equipped with a supportive team and much more backing in terms of money than if they were on a smaller label, gets lost in the shuffle while WB tries to keep their current "cash cows" afloat in the major markets. THIS IS NOT A RANT ON WB. I just think Eisley is trying to find love in all/any markets possible, and since they are kind of a "niche" band anyway, they would have been better off on a smaller label that had the time to pay more attention to them. Would they get the desired radio play? Probably not. But they could be tearing up the college airwaves right now, and that would be more fitting in my opinion. I think Eisley is special. Sure, they have a pop sound, but their lyrics and melodies are uniquely Eisley, and unique bands shine in smaller markets where they don't have to struggle to break the mainstream. I don't think they deserve to be treated like a product. The only way to crack the top 40 is through payola, and that leaves them absolutely out of control. Being in control is powerful. I know the passion is there, it just needs to be more directed and focused instead of just hoping for any kind of success anywhere. Smaller successes often turn into bigger ones. |
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Post subject: Re: My thoughts...not that it really matters.... Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:22 pm
Kimbrtones wrote: This band has sold over 64,000 cd's without any mainstream radio play. They have over 70,000+ fans... All right now, where's the 6,000 of you fans that hven't bought a CD yet? Snap to it! But on a serious, albeit cliché-ish, time and patience makes wine fine. If Eisley continues to rise to the top at a slow but steady pace, then it also that much more likely that they will not fall quickly like many other bands in the past that rose to the top too fast. _________________ This space intentionally left blank. |
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Joined: 05 Nov 2002 | Posts: 901 | Location: Denison, TX
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Post subject: Re: My thoughts...not that it really matters.... Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:25 pm
Bartman wrote: Kimbrtones wrote: This band has sold over 64,000 cd's without any mainstream radio play. They have over 70,000+ fans... All right now, where's the 6,000 of you fans that hven't bought a CD yet? Snap to it! But on a serious, albeit cliché-ish, time and patience makes wine fine. If Eisley continues to rise to the top at a slow but steady pace, then it also that much more likely that they will not fall quickly like many other bands in the past that rose to the top too fast. exactly. if you eat too much cake at once, you'll get sick if the world gets too much eisley, it might have the same effect. a little bit at a time slow and steady wins the race and all this hard work and struggle is making Eisley (and family) stronger you guys have to be the coolest people by now!
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Joined: 31 May 2004 | Posts: 2018 | Location: Sacramento, CA
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:37 pm
Hi Kim. It takes a while for a lot of artists to take off. Look at Maroon 5? Gavin DeGraw? John Mayer? Howie Day? It took them all a couple of albums before they ever went anywhere. They just toured a lot and bult up a huge fan base. Fiona Apple and David Garza may never have hit singles but they have tons of fans and do very well touring. I know it's frustrating but bands who have real talent and cult fan bases last longer than the Pussycat Dolls will. Don't give up, guys. Keep the faith and prayer. I wrote a beautiful song once, it goes "I believe in miracles....The Lord is so wonderful....Through Him I have overcome the impossible......" It says that if you keep persevering through prayer you can overcome anything and be triumphant. _________________ Don't you let them tell you you're an ugly child. They are blind to the beauty that lies within |
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:25 pm
I never listen to the radio. I hate all the ads and I don't know if I'm the only one that feels this way, but most the DJs are sooo annoying. They make dumb jokes and most of them sound so egotystical and crazy. Most of the time I dislike the music they play and get really tired of the fact that they play a certain song once every hour on the hour and it gets old way fast and all that.. Of course, if any of Eisley's songs were played on any of the radio stations around here, I'd call in fifteen times a day every day forever. I really think this band is special and they just deserve it. Let's see.. radio-wise.. I'd love to hear 'Marvelous Things.' That's the very first Eisley song I ever heard, and I loved it instantly and looked up the band and I've been a fan ever since. I also think 'I Wasn't Prepared' would have done well. And that's not just because it's one of my favourite Eisley songs.............. |
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Joined: 28 May 2005 | Posts: 27 | Location: Washington state!
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:01 am
Hello, well firstly it must be said you have courage for unloading on a bunch of strangers on a message board. I think that is ok because we all share your point of view. I know i have asked myself "why have eisley not had any air time on mainstream stations?" and in my opinion i think telescope eye's and Brightly wound could have been radio friendly songs. I must say i was surprised more so at this point when i first found out how long they had been around. I do not believe you should despair just yet as i think eisley are on the edge of success. I believe we shall see them go great distances with their music in the coming months. As for feeling resentment towards other bands that's ok, allot of them are rubbish and are no match for the great Eisley. So don't worry Mrs Dupree?...Mrs Eisley?...kim? i don't like to call people i don't know by their first names, i was taught it is rude. 
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Joined: 20 Nov 2005 | Posts: 84 | Location: UK, welsh
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:10 am
blue-angel wrote: Mrs Dupree?...Mrs Eisley?...kim?
Mrs. Eisley? 
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:42 am
sweeeeet wrote: I know it's frustrating but bands who have real talent and cult fan bases last longer than the Pussycat Dolls will. it still blows my mind that bands like the pussycat dolls ever made it big. video killed the radio star... _________________ 
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:51 am
Hi. I definatley agree that telescope eyes, marvelous things, and most of the songs on room noises could have easily been accepted and adopted by radio. Eisley does make incredible music and it is so frustrating to have amazing bands that deserve recognition, respect, and acknowledgment that are not given the opportunity or chance to be heard. As others were saying, the fact that Eisley has sold so many albums, and has as many fans as they do without the radio exposure, is a testament to the uniqueness and amazing musical capabilities that eisley posesses. I don't know if this matters much, because it doesn't pay the bills, or gain eisley any more publicity or fans, but personally, eisley has touched my life. Not only do they have an amazing sound, and a wonderfully refreshing originality within their music, but from meeting them at live shows, and reading the online journals, and comments from friends and family, they are warm, loving, humble, and creative personalities that deserve so much more than what the music industry has given them so far. I have no doubt that eisley fans will continue to grow, and eventually they will recieve the recognition they deserve. If that never happens (which I'm sure it will), I hope they and their family know how many people they have influenced and touched without the mainstream media to help. Eisley is definatley something unique and great. ~kate |
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Joined: 04 Apr 2005 | Posts: 89 | Location: DC
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:52 am
OceanMachine wrote: I've seen people on forums claim that they don't like Eisley because Eisley is Emo or Ska. Many of them have never heard anything by the band. But Eisley apparently looks Emo/Ska. Wait...some people consider Eisley to be ska?  _________________ Hi, my name is Jenna. 
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