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DannyT
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Hear, hear! I will add that it was pleasant to peruse a forum virtually free of annoying lingo and abbreviations typical of web forums, and populated by intelligent individuals capable of argumentation without uncontrolled anger and profanity.
I think it's safe to say that we're all looking forward to LP2 with eagerness. Eisley is the first band I have actively kept track of, so I've never taken notice to announcements of an impending release so far in advance. The expectation builds, and as much as I love Room Noises, I know I will add the next album to my list of favorites soon enough.
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Brightly Wound is my favorite song on Room Noises. It has a pure, simple and innocent musical brilliance. I think, in years to come, it will rise to the top of the Eisley cream.
Also, I think some of the remarks on this thread are pretentious, rude, not helpful in any way, and hurtful.

Well said. I agree. It has lovely lyrics and a nice harmony.

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What's unique about the situation we fans are in with Eisley is we are around when their first album comes out. And we'll be a part of their 2nd album coming out. And we'll see their third, fourth, etc.

Sit down and think about your favorite bands that maybe you first heard on the radio, or through a friend. Now how many of those bands were you actually around for when their first and second albums came out?

Now this is an old reference, but if you listen to Pink Floyd's first album, it's very clear that they were forced in many ways to fit into the "pop" genre of the late 60's by their manager/label/whatever (it's been a while since I read about it). It wasn't until Pink Floyd's 8th album (Dark Side of the Moon) that they really became a mainstream force. Now the internet is going to make this faster, big time, so I don't think it's going to take Eisley 8 albums to go mainstream at all. I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled out a major hit with their upcoming album.

If you listen to each Floyd album up to that point, you can always notice a progression and a maturity of their identity and their ability to get the songs the way the want them. Some albums it's obvious that they were influenced to do things they didn't really want to. Some albums are completely experimental. After a while, everything clicks together and they wind up releasing an album that is dead on target with what they're after. You could probably track this type of progression with just about any long standing band out there.

The point I'm trying to make is that Eisley is still so incredibly new to the music industry. They're going to put out a 2nd album that will be better than their first, simply because they have more experience with dealing with their label, the recording process, the advertising process, the touring process - everything. They've grown up some. I can almost guarantee that when this 2nd album comes out that they still won't be completely satisfied with everything. It's not going to be perfect. But it is going to better - not to say the first one was lacking, I really enjoy listening to it.

I'm very excited about latching onto a band so early in their rise to stardom. I look forward to their new album and their upcoming tour. It's gonna be a blast for everyone involved.
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crusso wrote:
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Sit down and think about your favorite bands that maybe you first heard on the radio, or through a friend. Now how many of those bands were you actually around for when their first and second albums came out?


This really made me think. I mostly remember first SOLO albums by singers from well-loved bands. We bought 45s, rarely bought LPs. And we bought 45's because we liked the song on the radio. Albums started becoming important after the Beatles. (Talking rock here; not jazz, musicals or classical.)
John Lennon's first solo album was HUGE. As was Sting's. I do remember that Prince's first album sold huge numbers, and was everywhere, but that got a lot of pre-release hype. And, it was fabulously delicious.

But the point crusso made is very, very true. I think most first albums are sold after the second or third are made. Though, this doesn't apply to American Idol type productions. Those albums are pushed out to take advantage of a TV phenomenon's quick fame, with full and unrelenting publicity and massive distribution machines. But, those usually suck and their careers tank just as quickly.

So, after thinking back on 40+ years of rock appreciation, I have to say I rarely, if ever bought a newly released first album of any unknown band which later went on to greatness.

Oh. Except for Aerosmith, the Cars, and Orchestra Luna--they were little local bands that we followed in Boston clubs. Orchestra Luna only made one LP, but, man, were they great.
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Dudes, Eisley will take over the world eventually. This is just like common knowledge people. C'mon. This next album will put them on the map and establish them in the mainstream world. This band is so young and has so so much more music and growth and love to share with this world. I have complete faith in this band's ability and essence. There's no question. Just knowing. It will carry them through and be their saving grace. Talent like that is undeniable. I've been saying it since I first heard them, they are what this world is missing. They're gonna bring it peoples. Its gonna be a marvelous thing when they do. Let em live, let em grow and experience and let those life experiences take shape in their music. I son't care if other people think I'm getting way ahead of myself here but I'm anticipating Grammy nominations for this band this time next year. YES. Can anyone say Best New Artist.......? Know it. Expect it. Its coming.
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I still really really like Room Noises. I listen to it on a regular basis. Maybe I'm just musically retarded from a technical point of view. Laughing But I know I stil rave about it to this day. And I also appreciate the quirky bizarreness to the older material...so if they combine the creative Eisley-ness of the old material...to the catchy melodies of the RN material...then that will make for a fabulous new record.
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RockerChick wrote:
Maybe I'm just musically retarded from a technical point of view.


You are certainly not. Some people just think that their opinion is fact.

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RockerChick wrote:
I still really really like Room Noises. I listen to it on a regular basis. Maybe I'm just musically retarded from a technical point of view. Laughing But I know I stil rave about it to this day. And I also appreciate the quirky bizarreness to the older material...so if they combine the creative Eisley-ness of the old material...to the catchy melodies of the RN material...then that will make for a fabulous new record.


I will have to agree with every single word of this post. Fits my opinion of everything as well.

Remember, most fans until they become FANatic, if they aren't from Texas and knew the band early on, ONLY know Room Noises...and loved the band from that. With some negative experiences, come very good things.
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Mystic210 wrote:

Remember, most fans until they become FANatic, if they aren't from Texas and knew the band early on, ONLY know Room Noises...and loved the band from that. With some negative experiences, come very good things.


That would describe pretty accurately my experience with Eisley. I heard a couple of songs off RN about 6-8 months ago and I finally went out and bought the album two months ago when I finally remembered what it was I had heard. I've since gone back and started listening to some of their other songs (once I discovered their myspace and their website) and haven't heard one that I didn't like. Their live performances excite me too because they're not all offkey and crappy like a lot of bands put out. I look forward to being able to see them once they go on tour again.
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And I think too many long-time fans forget that people come in from different perspectives. I know I sometimes overlook that not everyone has been listening to them for years, and sometimes people just don't care about production, etc.

It's good to remember and discover other perspectives.

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This thread is still going?!
well i am about to weigh in... and set the record straight.

140 lbs

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boyd wrote:
This thread is still going?!
well i am about to weigh in... and set the record straight.

140 lbs


140 lbs of a management locamotive!

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TheAntrider wrote:
And I think too many long-time fans forget that people come in from different perspectives. I know I sometimes overlook that not everyone has been listening to them for years, and sometimes people just don't care about production, etc.


I mean I got into Eisley when I first heard Laughing City. I don't think I was in high school...so it had to have been 2002 or 2003. (I'm sorry I'm really bad with when things came out.) And you have to admit that Laughing City as a song is totally "out there" compared to anything on Room Noises. But I don't think there is such a departure between the "old" record and the "new" records that there should be such a fuss. There's a little more of a pop element, sleeker production, yes...but the only huge difference I hear is the Creepy factor. Room Noises isn't as moody. But it's still Eisley!


Trust me....I've heard some major label transition records with REALLY BAD PRODUCTION...it's not that bad. Wink
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crusso wrote:


Now this is an old reference, but if you listen to Pink Floyd's first album, it's very clear that they were forced in many ways to fit into the "pop" genre of the late 60's by their manager/label/whatever (it's been a while since I read about it). It wasn't until Pink Floyd's 8th album (Dark Side of the Moon) that they really became a mainstream force. Now the internet is going to make this faster, big time, so I don't think it's going to take Eisley 8 albums to go mainstream at all. I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled out a major hit with their upcoming album.





not to get too off topic here, but, sadly, i am a pink floyd expert, and your comment, is technically wrong.

From the begining Floyd was always considered a nitch market. Like if someone was to release a indian album here in the states, it wouldnt sell a million copies but the record company would hope that it would sell enough to make a profit.
When floyd released piper it was for the 60's pychadelica london pop market. the songs were exactly the way syd barrett wanted them. not the record label. you need to remember that the floyds first two singles (arnold layne and see emily play) sold quite well. it is clear though that if floyd was going to stay in the genre they wouldnt be selling for very long. they changed direction.
we also have to note that the floyds 5th album went to number one in the uk (atom heart mother) and did pretty well here in the us of a.
they always had a good, i wouldnt hesitate to say, eisley type following during all their album releases. it just so happened that when they released dark side, it went global and huge. way more than floyd expected or even really wanted it too.

i think a better example of what you mean would be pablo honey from radiohead.
listen to that compared to their next album, the bend, and see how much they changed.

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I'm not interesed in debating back and forth. All I remember was reading a biography on the band that a friend purchased from a music store, and it discussed how the record label wouldn't let them be as experimental as Syd and the rest of the band wanted on that first album.

I may be wrong, and if I am I'll gladly admit it, but I'll take your word for it in regards to Radiohead's album. I'm not familiar with much of their work, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
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