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muslims don't think of muhammad as the(or a) messiah. _________________ chinese food makes me sick |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:05 pm
mr pine wrote: To Christians God is: God the Father God the Son God the Holy Spirit. The Blessed Trinity. Simple and plain. So therefore, The 'God' we worship is not the same. Not all Christians believe exactly as you do, just fyi.  I personally believe that God the Father, his son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are not all in one Being, as I believe that the Father and Jesus Christ have bodies united with spirits while the Holy Ghost is solely a spirit. They are One in purpose and unity, though.
I like to think that when all people pray to God, they are all praying to the same God (whether they think they are or not) who will hear and answer their prayers because He loves all of them and won't deny His children when they humbly pray. _________________ 
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:50 pm
Yes yes yes. I believe with all my heart that no matter what religion one practices, when they seek out or pray to a higher power, God--the SAME God is there listening. And he loves all of them and will hear and answer them. I don't think he would ever deny someone who came to him with an earnest heart in good faith. _________________ -Brooke |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:57 pm
jack_stripes wrote: muslims don't think of muhammad as the(or a) messiah. Allah is their God, Mohammad is their prophet.. and they believe Jesus Christ is a prophet too _________________ 
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:40 pm
I put other. I think there should be an option for the undecided.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:53 pm
cryptictonight wrote: Yes yes yes.
I believe with all my heart that no matter what religion one practices, when they seek out or pray to a higher power, God--the SAME God is there listening. And he loves all of them and will hear and answer them. I don't think he would ever deny someone who came to him with an earnest heart in good faith. i like how you think! |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:54 am
guitargirl wrote: mr pine wrote: To Christians God is: God the Father God the Son God the Holy Spirit. The Blessed Trinity. Simple and plain. So therefore, The 'God' we worship is not the same. Not all Christians believe exactly as you do, just fyi. I personally believe that God the Father, his son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are not all in one Being, as I believe that the Father and Jesus Christ have bodies united with spirits while the Holy Ghost is solely a spirit. They are One in purpose and unity, though. I know that, but thanks for the fyi. I know that the LDS church and the Jehovahs Witnesses have a different take on the trinity. And, no offense, but I disagree with that as much as I disagree with any other religion. It is fine that you believe that, I just disagree. That is also why I think Christian is too broad a term. IF LDS, Fundamentals, JW and the like are all considered Christian, they don't all believe the same thing. BUt that is just me, _________________ Wil's excellent description of me. wilsmith wrote: You're the Anti-Censorship+Topless Twitpic Parodying+Youth Group Video Directing guy that's a champion for the 1st amendment, Videogames as Art, and unrepentant file sharing... Instagram - Facebook - Twitter - YouTube |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:17 am
guitargirl wrote: mr pine wrote: To Christians God is: God the Father God the Son God the Holy Spirit. The Blessed Trinity. Simple and plain. So therefore, The 'God' we worship is not the same. Not all Christians believe exactly as you do, just fyi. I personally believe that God the Father, his son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are not all in one Being, as I believe that the Father and Jesus Christ have bodies united with spirits while the Holy Ghost is solely a spirit. They are One in purpose and unity, though.
I like to think that when all people pray to God, they are all praying to the same God (whether they think they are or not) who will hear and answer their prayers because He loves all of them and won't deny His children when they humbly pray. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." John 1:14 The word "Word" in these verses is refering to Jesus. So God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit are one, in being and in mind. They each have their own role though. The problem is you can't truely understand God. And by "you" I mean human beings. guitargirl wrote: He loves all of them and won't deny His children when they humbly pray. Glad you pointed that out, he does hear the prayers of his children. And not everyone is a child of God. "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him? " Matt. 7:7-11 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Matt. 7:21-23 _________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- 
Facebook.... http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1455720010 EisleyForever wrote: Never you mind, dearie. When a person implores your soul to watch its dead body have love made to it by an underage girl--from Texas, no less--it's okay not to respond. |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:01 am
^^^^ good job Captn Could not of said it better myself. _________________ Wil's excellent description of me. wilsmith wrote: You're the Anti-Censorship+Topless Twitpic Parodying+Youth Group Video Directing guy that's a champion for the 1st amendment, Videogames as Art, and unrepentant file sharing... Instagram - Facebook - Twitter - YouTube |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:08 am
Quote: I wouldn't say I hate them. But we do not worship the same God.
Semantically speaking we do. But there is way more to the Christian God then there is the JEwish and MUslim one. This is the MOST ignorant thing I've ever read. _________________ Something's not right... |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:17 am
Next someone is going to say that if you don't accept Jesus Christ as your personal saviour you will not be allowed to enter the pearly gates of Heaven. That anyone who denies Jesus is going to Hell. 
I don't believe it, but I said it so you all don't have to. This is the stuff wars are made of. Antrider...where are you? Bring your keys please. _________________ Something's not right... |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:31 am
mr pine wrote: ^^^^
good job Captn Could not of said it better myself. Thank you, and piperjay...according to the Bible you are correct about how to get to Heaven. As far as locking this thread goes, it doesn't really matter to me. But personally I know that if I'm going to be offended I just don't go into the thread. If you're not comfortable sharing views with other people that's fine. The things I've posted on this topic are my personal beliefs...I'm not forcing my views on anyone. Just sharing them If someone mentions something about abortion or something else I don't believe in...I just wouldn't respond. When an individual with a different belief system knocks on my door. I don't throw open the door and start beating them with my Bible. I greet them politely and listen to what they have to say. _________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------
Facebook.... http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1455720010 EisleyForever wrote: Never you mind, dearie. When a person implores your soul to watch its dead body have love made to it by an underage girl--from Texas, no less--it's okay not to respond. |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:04 am
piperjay23 wrote: Quote: I wouldn't say I hate them. But we do not worship the same God.
Semantically speaking we do. But there is way more to the Christian God then there is the JEwish and MUslim one. This is the MOST ignorant thing I've ever read. Well you must not read alot. And as for locking. I agree with Captn. And if Jamie locks it because one person is mad, then boo on him. _________________ Wil's excellent description of me. wilsmith wrote: You're the Anti-Censorship+Topless Twitpic Parodying+Youth Group Video Directing guy that's a champion for the 1st amendment, Videogames as Art, and unrepentant file sharing... Instagram - Facebook - Twitter - YouTube |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:16 am
Cap'n O'Schovanec wrote: guitargirl wrote: mr pine wrote: To Christians God is: God the Father God the Son God the Holy Spirit. The Blessed Trinity. Simple and plain. So therefore, The 'God' we worship is not the same. Not all Christians believe exactly as you do, just fyi. I personally believe that God the Father, his son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are not all in one Being, as I believe that the Father and Jesus Christ have bodies united with spirits while the Holy Ghost is solely a spirit. They are One in purpose and unity, though.
I like to think that when all people pray to God, they are all praying to the same God (whether they think they are or not) who will hear and answer their prayers because He loves all of them and won't deny His children when they humbly pray. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." John 1:14 The word "Word" in these verses is refering to Jesus. So God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit are one, in being and in mind. They each have their own role though. The problem is you can't truely understand God. And by "you" I mean human beings. guitargirl wrote: He loves all of them and won't deny His children when they humbly pray. Glad you pointed that out, he does hear the prayers of his children. And not everyone is a child of God. "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him? " Matt. 7:7-11 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Matt. 7:21-23 I believe that you're misinterpreting those verses. Everyone is a child of God. He created them all, they are all His children. To say otherwise is to put yourself on a higher pedestal because you were born in the right time and place to get the opportunity to learn the gospel. That's not fair. God wouldn't send so many of His children to live on earth only to condemn them. That would go against the nature of a loving God. Why would God refuse to listen to the prayers of His children just because they were born in a time or place where they don't know the gospel?  _________________
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:16 am
piperjay23 wrote: Next someone is going to say that if you don't accept Jesus Christ as your personal saviour you will not be allowed to enter the pearly gates of Heaven.
That anyone who denies Jesus is going to Hell.
I don't believe it, but I said it so you all don't have to. This is the stuff wars are made of. Antrider...where are you? Bring your keys please. i think for the most part this thread is extremely civil. this thread shows the broad range of beliefs when it comes to Christianity. which, in my opinion, is totally okay. |
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