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I usually hate it when people sound too clean. It's one of the reasons why I can't get into Mute Math. No-- I've tried, but I just get annoyed. I much prefer 'character' vocals (I guess some people call it 'soul' some people call it '$#@!') like this or this. _________________ Power is only pain It’s probably better to have him inside the tent pissing out, than outside the tent pissing in. "Can we get control of an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws of nature, such as self preservation?" -memo from 1952 Project ARTICHOKE |
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Joined: 19 Aug 2004 | Posts: 10565 | Location: Somewhere in the middle of nowhere
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inorbit wrote: I wonder the extent to which the turn the thread has taken is indicative of a generation raised on auto-tuned heroes. I wonder the same. All I know is...when I saw Eisley live, they were great. Some fans prefer one singer to the other, that's probably where it stems from. _________________ "The artist, like the God of creation, remains within or behind or beyond or above his handiwork, invisible, refined out of existence, indifferent, paring his fingernails."(J.Joyce) |
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Joined: 18 Dec 2004 | Posts: 339 | Location: never give up and good luck will find you.
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vivalaspopie wrote: I just think there is a difference between raw and bad. Obviously in Eisley's older music Sherri wasn't any more trained than now, but somehow it was raw and not bad. I don't think people should sing notes that cause them to stain their voices or screech when they have a voice that sounds like Sherri's. I'm coming off like such a tool, but it's what I honestly think is one of their biggest problems. It's not just imperfect; I find it offensive to my ears sometimes. Am I allowed to say that on this forum? I think I was writing when you posted... but I don't think we are disagreeing all that drastically... I was elaborating the post above to explain why I think that might be... Be Kind sounds pretty challenging, though, and I thought Stacy pulled it off pretty cleanly in the Brewtones clip I saw. |
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Pantheon4 wrote: Ditto. Unless they try to change their style to one where you usually expect to hear technical, clean vocals (real or fake). I love the clash, but I don't think trying to sing "never gonna give you up" would flattered Joe Strummer. Or westerberg. Or Mike Ness Or Perry Farrel, or probably even a natalie merchant. Or many of my my other favorite singers. |
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Joined: 06 Jan 2008 | Posts: 1759 | Location: Dallas
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Pantheon4 wrote: I love Black Francis and other artists that have a style like that (Jeff Mangum, for one). I just don't think it sounds good on everyone. Sherri being one. I'm kind of sick and scared of bashing here anymore. _________________ |
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Joined: 21 May 2005 | Posts: 5051 | Location: TX/NYC
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vivalaspopie wrote: Pantheon4 wrote: I love Black Francis and other artists that have a style like that (Jeff Mangum, for one). I just don't think it sounds good on everyone. Sherri being one. I'm kind of sick and scared of bashing here anymore. - I think there are two different things being discussed; one is whether they hit the notes and how precisely, and the other is what kind of singing their voices sound best doing. I thought we were talking about technical precision... I do agree that I like their voices better, at this point, when they are doing what they do best, which is the intense, but controlled, etherial thing, rather than R&B belting or screaming (btw, if you want to here some truly gorgeous screaming, check out Crystal Antlers). I don't think it sounds that bad when sheri does that (Stacy really doesn't), but its just not as good as when she does what she, at this point, does best. I think maybe I detect a will to do a bit more sort of R&B style belting (kind of like... no... I'm not gonna say it) rather than a Black Francis style screetch, but I agree that pulling that off with consistency so that it really comes across is gonna take a bit of training - as it would for pretty much anyone, and it does come out a bit strained as of now. In mean time, I disagree that what she puts out now is bad... she just doesn't do it as well as she does the lilting, ethereal, Liz Frazer style stuff. |
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vivalaspopie wrote: I almost hated Combinations from the first note because I detest the opening line vocals on Many Funerals.
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StuartBuck wrote: Man, this thread is opening up a window into how weirdly different people's perceptions can be even if they are all fans of the same band. my thoughts exactly. _________________ |
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Joined: 09 Apr 2008 | Posts: 9641 | Location: Greater St. Louis Area
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StuartBuck wrote: Me, I loved the opening line vocals on Many Funerals: that high piercing clear-as-a-bell sound. Same here. I think the problem with that clip of Sunfeet is not Sherri in general. When playing acoustically, when Sherri sings, she sounds marvelous. Electric, she seems to struggle as seen in that video. It's almost as if she is competing with the fully amplified instruments. Myself, I love Combinations. I love Room Noises. I love Mr. Pine and Lady of the Wood. I love both Sherri and Stacy's (and Chauntelle's) vocals. To me, Eisley is the emotional connection I have with the songs. _________________ j'ai pas envie d'être un robot, métro boulot dodo -Kelli |
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Joined: 03 Apr 2005 | Posts: 1720 | Location: utah
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guitargirl wrote: I think the problem with that clip of Sunfeet is not Sherri in general. When playing acoustically, when Sherri sings, she sounds marvelous. Electric, she seems to struggle as seen in that video. It's almost as if she is competing with the fully amplified instruments. yeah, for sure. Sherri+acoustic= pleasing-to-my-ears match made in heaven. She sounds amazing in a quieter setting. I love Eisley acoustic. Everything I've said previously applies to an amplified setting. |
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StuartBuck wrote: vivalaspopie wrote: I almost hated Combinations from the first note because I detest the opening line vocals on Many Funerals.
. You said it. Befuddles me how that can be interpreted as an unpleasant sound. If everyone sang as "bad" as Sherri, I'd sure like a helluva lot more of what's being sung out there! _________________ http://www.twitter.com/drstrangeblog http://www.last.fm/user/getinline I can't find the time to write my mind the way I want it to read. |
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grain thrower wrote: StuartBuck wrote: vivalaspopie wrote: I almost hated Combinations from the first note because I detest the opening line vocals on Many Funerals.
. You said it. Befuddles me how that can be interpreted as an unpleasant sound. If everyone sang as "bad" as Sherri, I'd sure like a helluva lot more of what's being sung out there! Oy! I don't think she's a bad singer. Just every once in awhile... something happens. _________________ |
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