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Nothing has happened to all the other songs you guys wanted to be videos. All this means is that they won't be the second video. "Smarter" was released only three months ago. If they keep going on this schedule, there could be time for a third and even fourth (!!!) video before they start work on the next full-length. Lose the whininess and have some perspective. _________________ INTELLECT AND ROMANCE OVER BRUTE FORCE AND CYNICISM Smokemonster |
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Saellys wrote: Nothing has happened to all the other songs you guys wanted to be videos. All this means is that they won't be the second video.
"Smarter" was released only three months ago. If they keep going on this schedule, there could be time for a third and even fourth (!!!) video before they start work on the next full-length. Lose the whininess and have some perspective. +1 I honestly don't get why people care so much that it wasn't this song or that. I'm just happy because: any video from Eisley is good. The rate that WB released videos was ridiculously slow. The Memories video did the song justice. Based on that alone, I reckon The Valley'll be a good'un. What actually makes a good single anyway? Just cause you don't like the song as much as others on the album doesn't mean others, new to the band, won't. And, any video to share on twitter & facebook will be good _________________ She is handsome, she is pretty, she is the girl from Belfast City, she is courtin' one two three, please won't you tell me who is she? TheClassicRomance wrote: Facebook is a dirty skank blog! |
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mad_sam_purple'ead wrote: Saellys wrote: Nothing has happened to all the other songs you guys wanted to be videos. All this means is that they won't be the second video.
"Smarter" was released only three months ago. If they keep going on this schedule, there could be time for a third and even fourth (!!!) video before they start work on the next full-length. Lose the whininess and have some perspective. +1 I honestly don't get why people care so much that it wasn't this song or that. I'm just happy because: any video from Eisley is good. The rate that WB released videos was ridiculously slow. The Memories video did the song justice. Based on that alone, I reckon The Valley'll be a good'un. What actually makes a good single anyway? Just cause you don't like the song as much as others on the album doesn't mean others, new to the band, won't. And, any video to share on twitter & facebook will be good The Valley isn't a bad choice by any means, but it wouldn't have been my first (or second, since we're talking second singles). Smarter was a bad choice, in my opinion, though. I started imagining videos for I Wish and Oxygen Mask pretty early on, so hopefully you guys can excuse me if I felt a little disappointed that we probably won't see a video for either of them (although my fingers are crossed that if they do pick a third, it's I Wish, since both Stacy and Sherri are featured on vocals). |
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I just fail to see how "The Valley" could possibly be a bad choice for a single. It's the title track, it's musically superb, and it contains striking visual language in the lyrics (which I hope will not be translated literally, as others have mentioned above). Now, I will absolutely give you that it would have made a much better first single (since that would also mean "Smarter" never would have happened). But I would not push back a potential single of "The Valley" for "I Wish" or "Oxygen Mask," which are both stylistically similar but artistically weaker in my opinion. _________________ INTELLECT AND ROMANCE OVER BRUTE FORCE AND CYNICISM Smokemonster |
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I think The Valley is the only Eisley song I've heard being played in a public area. It seems that something about it has made it stand out, which makes it a good candidate for a video. ...but I still wish they would use the EP version. _________________ "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated" -Mahatma, Gandhi |
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Saellys wrote: artistically weaker in my opinion. |
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tahruh wrote: Saellys wrote: artistically weaker in my opinion. Fair enough. By "into music" I assume you mean "create music themselves or have some grasp of the creative process". Because otherwise I see "into music" as people who like music, and if there are people who don't like music, why would we want them to like Eisley? _________________ INTELLECT AND ROMANCE OVER BRUTE FORCE AND CYNICISM Smokemonster |
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Well, I find 'Better Love' and 'Smarter' to be very droning, grating songs. Very depressing. When I think "accessible" I think of 'Watch It Die' and 'Oxygen Mask'. 'The Valley' should be an okay choice, as well. Of course this is all subjective. I personally feel like the wrong songs are being used to get the band exposure. |
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olimario wrote: Well, I find 'Better Love' and 'Smarter' to be very droning, grating songs. Very depressing.
When I think "accessible" I think of 'Watch It Die' and 'Oxygen Mask'. 'The Valley' should be an okay choice, as well. Of course this is all subjective. I personally feel like the wrong songs are being used to get the band exposure. _________________ |
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Saellys wrote: Fair enough. By "into music" I assume you mean "create music themselves or have some grasp of the creative process". Because otherwise I see "into music" as people who like music, and if there are people who don't like music, why would we want them to like Eisley? |
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Post subject: hehehehehe, guess who's got a keyboard to work with now???
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:17 am Are we certain about that smart part? Here are the hottest videos on MTV for a barometer of what's playing http://www.mtv.com/most-popular/music-videos/?metric=numberOfViews&ran ge=today&order=desc here are some billboard charts that represent markets Eisley covers: http://www.billboard.com/charts#/charts/adult-pop-songs http://www.billboard.com/charts#/charts/independent-albums http://www.billboard.com/charts#/charts/tastemaker-albums http://www.billboard.com/charts#/charts/alternative-songs If you're aiming to make an inroads towards commercial success based on what's working for the rest of the musical world, are you so sure about your picks? All I can think is that some of you think an NPR/ College Radio audience or AOR audience might be apt to the mellower pop songs, cause they would fit right in. Thing is, all the artists who made some "noise" in that market are dormant or inconsequential right now. I don't see ANY of them on the charts. As far as the current charts are concerned, Regina Spektor and Sara Bareilles are one hit wonders, and the also rans - A Fine Frenzy, Brandy Carlisle, etc. are almost never beens. KT Tunstall gets off lucky as a 2 hit wonder. It's hard times out there. I'm not disparaging the above artists, but when I think of the songs being thrown up as choices for singles in place of the Valley it fits the vibe of that style. They are good songs, but releasing them just cause there's hope that they might catch on and be hits seems to be slightly out-of-touch with what constitutes the feel and sound of a hit song write about now. The one side-effect of music on demand of your own choosing, courtesy of the saturation of the digital age, is that we can shape our own images of what the reality of the marketplace and trends are. We have been counter-cultured to the point of delusional perceptions, we being EVERYONE. That said, you just have to do what you enjoy, what you feel does you proud, if you are at all interested in enjoying your craft and not feeling like a slave to forces you have No Hope of controlling. For those reasons, I like the Valley. Folks were griping about all the heartache break-up songs, the lack of whimsical and artful lyrics, the fear of a Hard Rock turn, out came this song and our minds were blown (as far as I can recall) and still are based on so many people wanting the EP version in the video they are voting down. I still think the song is Wonderful, it's an Anthem if ever Eisley wrote one. Every Hero needs an Anthem. _________________ yup, that's my name. FOR YOUR RATING PLEASURE: 4 LIKE Buttons, 1 NEUTRAL, 1 VEXED, 5 DISLIKE buttons. LC > FB = personal fave = Eisley fans should dig it |
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Post subject: Re: hehehehehe, guess who's got a keyboard to work with now?
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:55 am wilsmith wrote: Are we certain about that smart part?
Here are the hottest videos on MTV for a barometer of what's playing http://www.mtv.com/most-popular/music-videos/?metric=numberOfViews&ran ge=today&order=desc here are some billboard charts that represent markets Eisley covers: http://www.billboard.com/charts#/charts/adult-pop-songs http://www.billboard.com/charts#/charts/independent-albums http://www.billboard.com/charts#/charts/tastemaker-albums http://www.billboard.com/charts#/charts/alternative-songs If you're aiming to make an inroads towards commercial success based on what's working for the rest of the musical world, are you so sure about your picks? All I can think is that some of you think an NPR/ College Radio audience or AOR audience might be apt to the mellower pop songs, cause they would fit right in. Thing is, all the artists who made some "noise" in that market are dormant or inconsequential right now. I don't see ANY of them on the charts. As far as the current charts are concerned, Regina Spektor and Sara Bareilles are one hit wonders, and the also rans - A Fine Frenzy, Brandy Carlisle, etc. are almost never beens. KT Tunstall gets off lucky as a 2 hit wonder. It's hard times out there. I'm not disparaging the above artists, but when I think of the songs being thrown up as choices for singles in place of the Valley it fits the vibe of that style. They are good songs, but releasing them just cause there's hope that they might catch on and be hits seems to be slightly out-of-touch with what constitutes the feel and sound of a hit song write about now. The one side-effect of music on demand of your own choosing, courtesy of the saturation of the digital age, is that we can shape our own images of what the reality of the marketplace and trends are. We have been counter-cultured to the point of delusional perceptions, we being EVERYONE. That said, you just have to do what you enjoy, what you feel does you proud, if you are at all interested in enjoying your craft and not feeling like a slave to forces you have No Hope of controlling. For those reasons, I like the Valley. Folks were griping about all the heartache break-up songs, the lack of whimsical and artful lyrics, the fear of a Hard Rock turn, out came this song and our minds were blown (as far as I can recall) and still are based on so many people wanting the EP version in the video they are voting down. I still think the song is Wonderful, it's an Anthem if ever Eisley wrote one. Every Hero needs an Anthem. wilsmith wrote: The one side-effect of music on demand of your own choosing, courtesy of the saturation of the digital age, is that we can shape our own images of what the reality of the marketplace and trends are. Also, I have to agree about the "smart" comment -- Wil can't even spell intelligence! |
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