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boone wrote: That's pretty impressive, actually, that looks like it'll sound pretty good, as long as they didn't denoise it too much and kill the tone. I'm actually surprised at how weak those snare hits have always been. I wish The Beatles wouldn't have compressed the drums so much. That's a technique I kind of wish would go away.
Thanks for that. Yeah, honestly, they might have just cranked the gain and left it at that I mean those are the same waves pretty much exactly with increased amplitude, which looks like a gain crank to me, these might not even be legit remasters, just "relouders" but that's a good thing We share a Pet Peeve - I don't know why those Brits where so down on propulsive drumming until Bohnam. It was the same thing with Moon and Ginger Baker too, this tendency to try and sound like Jazz drummers, when initially they were covering all these Early Rock & Blues artists who had nothing but Fat Back, Gut-Bucket drumming (you know, the good stuff) behind them. Whenever ever I would get in a discussion about Hendrix with the elder Statemen around here (as in St. Louis, the Laughable City, as opposed to this, the actual Laughing City), there would always be this move to diss Buddy Miles drumming in favor of Mitch Mitchell because Mitchell used polyrhythms was more dynamic. For me, I liked them both, but that preference for the jazzier drums, it sometimes takes away from the groove. Particularly the emphasis on the ride in place of the the snare, or shuffles and brushing instead of snaps and heavy backbeats. The music is more "sophisticated" that way I guess? I say Turn Up the Snare! _________________ yup, that's my name. FOR YOUR RATING PLEASURE: 4 LIKE Buttons, 1 NEUTRAL, 1 VEXED, 5 DISLIKE buttons. LC > FB = personal fave = Eisley fans should dig it |
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I want the mono so bad, but I don't know. My dream vinyl would be to have the original Parlophone versions and that mono box set is the closest you can get - exact reproductions of all the artwork,etc. At first it seemed getting the mono box and then buying the stereo albums would be the way to go - Abbey and LIB - but after reading some reviews I find out that you still won't get every track because the Past Masters for the mono box only contains the tracks that were in mono - so you would be missing a few of the later stereo only singles. Honestly, it still pisses me off they didn't just put Mono and Stereo on both discs. It could easily fit on almost every album other than the White and Abbey R albums (I think all others are less than 40 mins). That being said, I'd love to hear the new Stereo versions, too, but no way I'm going to shell out, what, $400-500? So if I had to pick one I'd go with mono. _________________ I am Torgo. I take care of the place while the Master is away. |
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DRMS_7888 wrote: Really? That's all they did? You can do that at home for free. No, Wil was just speculating. The songs have all been cleaned up and almost everything is much clearer, especially on the later albums. It was a full remastering. _________________ EvilSpace |
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JBaker wrote: DRMS_7888 wrote: Really? That's all they did? You can do that at home for free. No, Wil was just speculating. The songs have all been cleaned up and almost everything is much clearer, especially on the later albums. It was a full remastering. Yeah, I was just being asinine and contentious... They would never pull a fast one like that! _________________ yup, that's my name. FOR YOUR RATING PLEASURE: 4 LIKE Buttons, 1 NEUTRAL, 1 VEXED, 5 DISLIKE buttons. LC > FB = personal fave = Eisley fans should dig it |
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I'm not that familiar with recording techniques, but it seems that except for Yellow Submarine, Abby Road, and Let It Be, the majority of the albums were originally recorded in mono, even though stereo recording was in existence. Why would they choose to do that? _________________ Mike=] |
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mikep0922 wrote: I'm not that familiar with recording techniques, but it seems that except for Yellow Submarine, Abby Road, and Let It Be, the majority of the albums were originally recorded in mono, even though stereo recording was in existence. Why would they choose to do that? Stereo was a new technology at the time, and most artists were hesitant to use it. Phil Spector and Brian Wilson in particular hated stereo. The problem was that people could put the two speakers wherever they wanted to, and potentially ruin the mix. Also, you could only listen to music in stereo on your hifi at home, so they would have to do two mixes anyway. The Beatles released a lot of their albums in stereo, but the stereo mixes were rushed afterthoughts usually. A huge problem was that EMI's studio at Abbey Road was constantly behind the times. When the Beatles first started recording, EMI only had two track recorders. In the 60s. Most of their LPs were recorded on four track recorders, which consisted of numerous mixdowns, which means they were usually mixing while recording at the same time. The only album they recorded on an 8 track recorder was Abbey Road. |
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mikep0922 wrote: I'm not that familiar with recording techniques, but it seems that except for Yellow Submarine, Abby Road, and Let It Be, the majority of the albums were originally recorded in mono, even though stereo recording was in existence. Why would they choose to do that? The first four albums were only in mono. Everything after that was offered in mono and stereo, and then Abbey Road and Let It Be were only stereo. And Unregistered, you can only get the mono CDs by buying The Beatles In Mono box set. You can't purchase any of them individually. _________________ EvilSpace |
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if you're really interested in the history of the beatles regarding mono/stereo i have already read 3 or 4 detailed articles on it, so they're out there. it was hilarious - i called Target to see if they got any of the Mono or Stereo Box Set and i could tell it was a teenager - "Mono?" then again, i actually studied Audio Recording, so it's not something the normal joe would know or care to know about. the top reviewed review on the Amazon for the mono box set is pretty detailed. _________________ I am Torgo. I take care of the place while the Master is away. |
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I'm going to buy it. I agree with boon but i don't have a record player. _________________ http://zenblade9.deviantart.com/ |
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I do not own any beatles Cds. But I have every one of their albums on vinyl. I think they are all in stereo though, except for Introducing the Beatles, which I know is Mono. They are amazing to listen to on a record player they way they were meant to. I like the old stereo where vocals were in left speaker and guitar in right or whatever. i think it has charm. and sounds better than today's stereo. listen to the original hey bulldog on stereo record then on stereo cd and hear the difference. _________________ Wil's excellent description of me. wilsmith wrote: You're the Anti-Censorship+Topless Twitpic Parodying+Youth Group Video Directing guy that's a champion for the 1st amendment, Videogames as Art, and unrepentant file sharing... Instagram - Facebook - Twitter - YouTube |
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