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 Post subject: Global WarmingPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:12 am 
First of all, I understand that it's important to protect the enviroment. It's absolutely necessary, and something we all ought to be concientious of. But... and I'm asking you to keep an open mind here.. is it right to do it under the banner of something that remains unproven? Global Warming still remains a theory, and it disgusts me that concerts are being held to "raise money to fight global warming." The Earth does go through warming and cooling cycles (I'm sure you've all heard of the Ice Age, and come on, it wasn't caused by us not driving cars around enough), and some prominent, good scientists are being absolutely trashed when they try to remind everyone that global warming is STILL a theory. Some of the "facts/ research" in And Inconvienient Truth were falsified, and the fact remains that Al Gore is a hypocrite, seeing as his own home(s) use more than the average amount of energy. It's not as if I don't care about the Earth, so please don't attack me on those grounds, but I just would like to let everyone know this even as committees are being formed and money raised to fight.. what? P.S. I'm not roundly denying global warming; it is possible. We just shouldn't believe in it dogmatically and become zealots of the unproven cause. |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:30 am
although a few scientists still say that global warming isnt real, more and more scientists are starting to say it is. but its not so serious that the effects are irreversable or anything. we just need to start becoming more concious about what were doing to the environment. i drive a hybrid and recycle and whatnot, theres alot you can do to help the environment. bands like the ditty bops are doing alot to help the environment, including having done a cross country tour completey on bike. they also have a ton of stuff on their website like petitions and ideas to help the environment http://thedittybops.com/news.htm _________________ thats why you don't leave the air conditioner on. |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:03 pm
I took your question to mean, "Do I believe in Global Warming as it's presented by the media and environmentalists?" My answer is no. However, I do believe the Earth is experiencing a natural warm period that will end on it's own before any irreversible effects take place. I think it's very pretentious for humans to believe themselves so significant that they could destroy the planet so easily. With that said, I do believe in conservation and in caring for the Earth. It is part of our God-given duty as stewards of this planet. _________________ "Great, I'm dead and I'm breaking out." ~Crow T. Robot |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:26 pm
I don't think we can really do anything to FIGHT global warming personally. But, I do think we could do a lot more to conserve the earth's natural resources. _________________ EisleyForever wrote: you're A-list in my heart! MAKECOLDPLAYHISTORY |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 1:46 pm
While what we do the world isn't helping the environment, I don't think it's causing global warming. |
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Post subject: Re: Global Warming Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 2:41 pm
vintage_snowflake wrote: P.S. I'm not roundly denying global warming; it is possible. We just shouldn't believe in it dogmatically and become zealots of the unproven cause. yea. like Iraq... _________________ 
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Post subject: Re: Global Warming Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 2:51 pm
Lantz wrote: vintage_snowflake wrote: P.S. I'm not roundly denying global warming; it is possible. We just shouldn't believe in it dogmatically and become zealots of the unproven cause. yea. like Iraq... |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 2:52 pm
We had a debate in my energy and the environment class today (arch major) on sustainable design vs aesthetic design. it was so one sided on the side of sustainability it was pathetic. obv. i was on the winning side. for people that can afford paying for a sustainable design now it's such a logical step. it's more $ upfront, but eventually things like solar panels can pay themselves off over time. even if we're not causing global warming, why not make a good investment? |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 2:58 pm
The real question is do humans have any significant impact on global temperature variables, be they warming or (as was the popular theory a few decades ago) cooling? Yes, I have a high efficiency furnace and high efficiency windows in my house because they pay for themselves over time. I think anyone who buys otherwise is very shortsighted on their pocket book. And of couse my decisions in that regard also lead to less natural gas being burned in the winter and less electricity in the summer, so all the better for those who are concerned about these things. |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 2:59 pm
I'm thrilled about global warming. I live 600 mile from the coast and hope that the new coast line will be just a couple a hundred miles from here. i dont eat seafood unless its fresh and we dont get much of that here. We could get so much more if the coast were that much closer. Seriously, I really hope this global warming thing works out and is the whole load of crap al freakin gore and others are politicizing . |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:03 pm
it's likely that low E windows and the like will become cheaper in years to come as with all new technology. sooner or later all new houses (many commercial buildings already are) will be built using green design and we'll be talking about how that's not even enough 
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:06 pm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170&q=global+w arming+swindle _________________ Power is only pain It’s probably better to have him inside the tent pissing out, than outside the tent pissing in. "Can we get control of an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws of nature, such as self preservation?" -memo from 1952 Project ARTICHOKE 
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:31 pm
Even if Global Warming is a big ruse to get people to recycle their milk bottles, it will be nice to buy sustainable and energy efficient resources for cheap in a few years. _________________ EisleyForever wrote: you're A-list in my heart! MAKECOLDPLAYHISTORY |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:39 pm
And Liberals are pinned as the crazy Conspiracy Theorists.  
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:46 pm
tahruh wrote: And Liberals are pinned as the crazy Conspiracy Theorists. CTRL + F "sarcasm detector" ... ... ... NOT FOUND _________________ EisleyForever wrote: you're A-list in my heart! MAKECOLDPLAYHISTORY |
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