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I've been wondering this since the beginning of the films series, but I always kept forgetting to discuss this on here.

While I do not consider myself a Twihard, I will admit that I do watch the films, though I have never read the books.

One of my main reasons for watching the films? The soundtracks. I always look forward to the announcement of the soundtracks rather than the movies themselves. With the likes of Bon Iver, Lykke Li, Mutemath, Radiohead, Iron & Wine, and Death Cab; one has to admit they're not bad.

Eisley would fit right in. One of the songs from The Valley would have been perfect for Breaking Dawn Part 1. Kind, anyone? I can so imagine it playing in the background of Edward and Bella's wedding.

And we know at least Sherri is a fan, so it's doubtful the band would be opposed to it. So why have they never been asked? Imagine the exposure they would get!!

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Soundtracks for populist films are kind of a complicated mess. There are a lot of politics involved, with corporate synergy and studio interference and trying to ride the wave of whatever is on the charts at that time.

The director usually hires a music coordinator, who suggests songs to be used in the film, and takes care of getting all the rights and making sure they can afford it. The director and the editing team will usually plug in different songs onto scenes to see if they fit (usually to the chagrin of the composer), and the music coordinator will secure the rights to use that song, or find a cheaper song with a similar feel and tempo, or find somebody to record a cover of the song or rip off the song on the cheap, etc.

Then the producers will suggest using a song from such and such singer or group, because they hope fans of that group will see the movie, and get free publicity on the radio and MTV, and of course they get royalties from the soundtrack sales. Usually their favorite thing is to find a "theme song" that plays during the closing credits.

Then the executives come along, and they have executive friends who work for so and so record company (preferably a subsidiary of the movie studio, but not necessarily) and they're looking to push this new singer or group, and executives love favors, so they force the director to shoehorn another song in the movie (they're usually played on a radio in the background, ha).

Then there's the soundtrack album. Some songs are too expensive to pay for twice, so that's when you end up with "Music Inspired By The Motion Picture..." albums, i.e., songs that weren't in the movie. Something tells me this is where a lot of executive favors get dumped.

So, a lot of the time, it's really a crapshoot what songs actually get attached to a movie. Guys like Martin Scorsese, Quentin Tarantino, and Wes Anderson are pretty few and far between. It would have been a boon if some assistant editor had a copy of The Valley lying around and tried a song on a scene that wasn't working, and it clicked; short of that, chances are pretty slim of a band like Eisley getting on a soundtrack for the time being.

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I remember about 3 years ago, all these "twihards" were leaving youtube comments on Eisley's I Wasn't Prepared Music Video. Apparently, Stephenie Meyer had chosen it for a soundtrack for one of her other books, The Host which she posted on her website. Needless to say, a lot of Eisley fans weren't too happy about it.

Stephenie Meyer wrote:



The Host Playlist

1. Soul Meets Body — Death Cab for Cutie
2. Papercut — Linkin Park
3. Futurism — Muse
4. I Wasn't Prepared — Eisley
5. Walking After You — Foo Fighters
6. Down In It — Nine Inch Nails
7. Blood — Editors
8. Pts. of Athrty — Linkin Park
9. Fortress Around Your Heart — Sting
10. The Ghost of You — My Chemical Romance
11. Because I Want You — Placebo
12. Stockholm Syndrome — Muse
13. As You Are — Travis
14. Smile Like You Mean It — The Killers
15. Don't Stay — Linkin Park
16. Just Like You — Three Days Grace
17. Consolation Prizes — Phoenix
18. My Name Is Love — Rob Dickinson
19. The Hand That Feeds — Nine Inch Nails
20. My Body is a Cage — Arcade Fire
21. Rescued — Jack's Mannequin
22. Original of the Species — U2
23. The Last Song — All-American Rejects
24. Beautiful Day — U2


I heard the movie for the Host is already in the works. So who knows? Maybe Eisley would get picked for the soundtrack..

While I'm not the biggest Stephenie Meyer fan, and have made fan of her writing/the Twilight books in the past, I do admit this would be great for their exposure. Let's see..

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why would eisley fans get upset over an authors liking of one of thier songs?

i don't get it?

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Short answer to the question posed in this thread title, without reading any of the other responses in full: Because they have standards.
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Saellys wrote:
Short answer to the question posed in this thread title, without reading any of the other responses in full: Because they have standards.


this brings up another question

how much of it is a band's choice? aren't all songs basically up for sale and if one pays the money for it they can use it, within reason?
or is it up to whoever holds the publishing rights?
if it is the later, i thought they just set the price and that was that.

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mr pine wrote:
Saellys wrote:
Short answer to the question posed in this thread title, without reading any of the other responses in full: Because they have standards.


this brings up another question

how much of it is a band's choice? aren't all songs basically up for sale and if one pays the money for it they can use it, within reason?
or is it up to whoever holds the publishing rights?
if it is the later, i thought they just set the price and that was that.


As an independent artist with music available for licensing on Jamendo, I get to approve or deny requests for my music. Usually my royalties amount to pennies, but at least I have control.

I have no idea how things work on a label, but as I recall there were several instances in which Eisley had no idea their songs had been used on TV shows and the like.

I also know that when Radiohead left their label, two things happened: "(nice dream)," to which EMI still owned the rights (along with everything through Hail to the Thief--the band did not approve or have anything to do with that best of collection that came out a few years ago, or the anniversary box sets that keep getting released), ended up on an episode of How I Met Your Mother, and several songs from In Rainbows, to which Radiohead owned the rights, got used for all kinds of purposes. "House of Cards" ended up on an NBA commercial, of all things, and I was doubly disgusted because Thom has said in interviews that Radiohead would never sell music for commercials because when you sell a song, you're selling all the memories and associations people have with that song.

And then Thom did a song for a Twilight soundtrack. Mad

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Saellys wrote:
Short answer to the question posed in this thread title, without reading any of the other responses in full: Because they have standards.


That was probably the most ridiculous response I've ever seen in my 4 years on here. So, basically you're implying that all of the other bands I listed which did songs for Twilight (including Thom York) don't have standards?

I don't think any band trying to make it in the industry would turn down that kind of exposure, whether or not they were fans of the film. As I said before Sherri is a fan of not only the movies, but the books so I think that had they been asked to write a song for Twilight it would have been to at least her "standards."

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juan_diego wrote:
Saellys wrote:
Short answer to the question posed in this thread title, without reading any of the other responses in full: Because they have standards.


That was probably the most ridiculous response I've ever seen in my 4 years on here. So, basically you're implying that all of the other bands I listed which did songs for Twilight (including Thom York) don't have standards?


Yup! Smile

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Saellys wrote:
juan_diego wrote:
Saellys wrote:
Short answer to the question posed in this thread title, without reading any of the other responses in full: Because they have standards.


That was probably the most ridiculous response I've ever seen in my 4 years on here. So, basically you're implying that all of the other bands I listed which did songs for Twilight (including Thom York) don't have standards?


Yup! Smile


Well in that case I would ask you for a list of bands that do have standards, but I'm sure you'd argue that we've probably never heard of them.

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juan_diego wrote:
Saellys wrote:
juan_diego wrote:
Saellys wrote:
Short answer to the question posed in this thread title, without reading any of the other responses in full: Because they have standards.


That was probably the most ridiculous response I've ever seen in my 4 years on here. So, basically you're implying that all of the other bands I listed which did songs for Twilight (including Thom York) don't have standards?


Yup! Smile


Well in that case I would ask you for a list of bands that do have standards, but I'm sure you'd argue that we've probably never heard of them.


I'm not sure why you'd assume that, since I already said Eisley have standards (and so, potentially, do thousands of other bands who have never been on a Twilight soundtrack).

Though if Sherri really is a fan of the books and movies, I'm kind of disappointed in her. She usually has such good taste. But hey, everyone has a guilty pleasure.

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Yeah, unfortunately I don't think it's because they have standards. More or less, it's because they were never asked.

Also, I think one of their dogs is named Bella, after the main character.

Even if it's after the book, the book is still terrible, and the fascination with that alone is example enough of a truly pathetic society.

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Saellys wrote:
juan_diego wrote:
Saellys wrote:
juan_diego wrote:
Saellys wrote:
Short answer to the question posed in this thread title, without reading any of the other responses in full: Because they have standards.


That was probably the most ridiculous response I've ever seen in my 4 years on here. So, basically you're implying that all of the other bands I listed which did songs for Twilight (including Thom York) don't have standards?


Yup! Smile


Well in that case I would ask you for a list of bands that do have standards, but I'm sure you'd argue that we've probably never heard of them.


I'm not sure why you'd assume that, since I already said Eisley have standards (and so, potentially, do thousands of other bands who have never been on a Twilight soundtrack).


Because you're saying that all those other bands (great bands I might add) are now not good enough for you simply because they did songs for Twilight.

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juan_diego wrote:
Saellys wrote:
juan_diego wrote:
Saellys wrote:
juan_diego wrote:
Saellys wrote:
Short answer to the question posed in this thread title, without reading any of the other responses in full: Because they have standards.


That was probably the most ridiculous response I've ever seen in my 4 years on here. So, basically you're implying that all of the other bands I listed which did songs for Twilight (including Thom York) don't have standards?


Yup! Smile


Well in that case I would ask you for a list of bands that do have standards, but I'm sure you'd argue that we've probably never heard of them.


I'm not sure why you'd assume that, since I already said Eisley have standards (and so, potentially, do thousands of other bands who have never been on a Twilight soundtrack).


Because you're saying that all those other bands (great bands I might add) are now not good enough for you simply because they did songs for Twilight.


I still listen to loads of Radiohead/Thom, as well as Iron & Wine (was never into the others to begin with). And despite Sherri liking the books and movies, I'm obviously still into Eisley. So no, I'm not saying that at all.

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I really want to read this thread, but because it's related to Twilight, I just can't bring myself to do it yet. Perhaps if I ingest a large does of fiber I'll feel better about it later?
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