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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:11 am 
vivalaspopie wrote: That said, I think there is a lot more that one can do to help their nation and its people than just voting once every four years! well put, i like that. _________________ You can't find love; you have to create it. Flickr |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:16 am
JBaker wrote: tahruh wrote: JBaker wrote: vivalaspopie wrote: i really hope all the people who selected "you don't vote" are just too young to. Nope. I chose not to vote and I'm of age. It's my right, no? I don't believe a thing from either of the candidates that actually have a chance to win.  I'm actually a registered independent in the state of Texas. SO BACK OFF, WOMAN!  Just vote for Barr. (If you're actually registered!)  _________________ Albert Camus wrote: Always go too far, because that's where you'll find the truth. |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:26 pm
I want to vote for Nathan Petrelli.  He's more like Superman than Obama. He can actually fly.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:08 pm
I vote because my grandpa would disown me if I didn't.
No really, I vote because that's how this government is supposed to work. And I get to vote absentee because I work the polls on election day! |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:52 pm
ladiosadice wrote: I vote for my reproductive freedom. I'm pretty sure none of the candidates are planning on banning reproduction. _________________ EvilSpace |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:04 pm
JBaker wrote: ladiosadice wrote: I vote for my reproductive freedom. I'm pretty sure none of the candidates are planning on banning reproduction. They should. Too many people in the world. _________________ EisleyForever wrote: you're A-list in my heart! MAKECOLDPLAYHISTORY |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:20 pm
Rb wrote: I'm 21, haven't registered, don't want to. I don't see the purpose of voting in this election or any election, because sure you can believe in change, but it really isn't contingent on what myself, one person out of California thinks, it is the majority. Since California is clearly a blue state, if I were to place my vote either way, neither would matter because if I choose Mccain over Obama, California majority will be Obama, and what will one more vote for Obama do for California, he doesn't need any more help. I think it would have more meaning to be in a swing state, but California, no need to care, just sit back and watch. If you pass on all of that ... but found time to vote in this poll ...
BTW - Glad to see some third party action in this thread. Remember, if everyone waits for a third party to become viable to vote for them, then a third party will never become viable. If you don't like either major party, don't vote for them but don't use that as an excuse not to vote. That said, if you have a more compelling reason not to vote then I respect your decision to stay out of the booth. _________________ 
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:07 am
gundamit wrote: There are a lot more things to vote for on your ballot other the office of president. Bond measures, local political races, management of political redistricting and I think some people want to take the word "marriage" away from the gays. None of this matters to you? Exactly. It's about far more than who gets picked for president. Lots of local things on there as well that matter just as much, if not more IMO. gundamit wrote: If you pass on all of that ... but found time to vote in this poll ... _________________ "I shall take the heart," returned the Tin Woodsman; "for brains do not make one happy, and happiness is the best thing in the world." |
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Post subject: I Believe in my Candidate... Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:58 am
I don't necessarily believe he's a flawless person or politician, but I believe he has the people skills necessary to do his job, which is surround himself with people who are inspired to help him do his job effectively. I trust his judgment to surround himself with the correct group of people to be effective. I believe he will have the support of many people from his political party, and thus have a little hope to work with congress and not have an uphill battle to legislative reforms. I don't believe the opposing party is very keen on cooperating in these efforts unless forced to by crisis. I believe we are in the midst of a crisis just watch this http://www.moneyasdebt.net/ I'm sure this can be said for both candidates if a person is compelled, but third party folks are on the outs. Subversion from within seems the only path to change in that regard. We are hitting a wall either way. The fact that no one from the current administration (Or Bush family... Jeb anyone?) was figured into the election from the onset is a sign of change of some sort. Cycle's broken for now, one can hope right? _________________ yup, that's my name. FOR YOUR RATING PLEASURE: 4 LIKE Buttons, 1 NEUTRAL, 1 VEXED, 5 DISLIKE buttons. LC > FB          
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Post subject: Voting because we can... the unabridged version... Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:58 am
Pantheon4 wrote: I'll just say this now, I hate it when people vote because they 'can' (that's blacks, women, and 18-20-year-olds). I think that if you don't know what you're voting for (not what you think you're voting for) you shouldn't vote. I don't really agree with everything (anything) that Cubs is voting for, however, it's obvious that he's done his homework so I can respect his vote. However, he's got it right in the 'why' category. There was never a perfect candidate, so the best anybody can do is the lesser of two evils. People vote "because they can." shouldn't be taken literally as a reason, but as a distinction, implying that they wouldn't have been able to given historical changes that would not have come about without a specific effort. It's a matter of liberty achieved. So, to not like a misinformed voter is pretty much Elitist, whether they be minorities and women, or uneducated or bigoted. Everyone has the privileged, well almost... read this http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/23638322/block_the_vote/pri nt People here in America are free, for better or worse. It's what we sell to the world, and it's also the source of a lot of our woes because people in America aren't necessarily selfless or communal in their thinking. But that's what we are. Love it or leave it. As long as we're honest about it, and not deceitful and corrupt, the process is what it is, and any grievances people have are their own cross to bear. Otherwise, mount a campaign to end it if you're that put off. Seems to have worked for all those folks who vote "because they can." Or not, cause you're free to do whatever, so long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's rights, right? _________________ yup, that's my name. FOR YOUR RATING PLEASURE: 4 LIKE Buttons, 1 NEUTRAL, 1 VEXED, 5 DISLIKE buttons. LC > FB
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:41 am
guitargirl wrote: I vote first because I feel an obligation to do so as a woman, because that right was denied for so long. I vote second to advance what I believe is right. when i can vote, im definitely voting every chance i get since it's now a right we got rather recently (compared to how long women suffrages have been around) as women. i also think that we as citizens of a democracy should exercise our rights, as it's something not many people enjoy around the world. however i dont think voting is something that should be taken lightly, and that people should really know why/who they're voting for. _________________ I used to be Snow White but I drifted -Mae West |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:35 pm
Just to put in my two cents, since I was the one that started this fantastic conversation, I'm voting for the candidate that I truly believe in, in spite of the fact that he won't be elected and I know he won't be elected. But it's going to be a slow walk towards there being a third party that is paid attention to and I want to be part of that movement. _________________ Thistledown |
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Post subject: Re: Voting because we can... the unabridged version... Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:28 pm
wilsmith wrote: Everyone has the privileged, well almost... read this http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/23638322/block_the_vote/pri nt I was going to post this in the Palin thread. Everyone needs to read this article. _________________ 
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Post subject: Re: Voting because we can... the unabridged version... Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:23 am
wilsmith wrote: Pantheon4 wrote: I'll just say this now, I hate it when people vote because they 'can' (that's blacks, women, and 18-20-year-olds). I think that if you don't know what you're voting for (not what you think you're voting for) you shouldn't vote. I don't really agree with everything (anything) that Cubs is voting for, however, it's obvious that he's done his homework so I can respect his vote. However, he's got it right in the 'why' category. There was never a perfect candidate, so the best anybody can do is the lesser of two evils. People vote "because they can." shouldn't be taken literally as a reason, but as a distinction, implying that they wouldn't have been able to given historical changes that would not have come about without a specific effort. It's a matter of liberty achieved. So, to not like a misinformed voter is pretty much Elitist, whether they be minorities and women, or uneducated or bigoted. Everyone has the privileged, well almost... read this http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/23638322/block_the_vote/pri nt People here in America are free, for better or worse. It's what we sell to the world, and it's also the source of a lot of our woes because people in America aren't necessarily selfless or communal in their thinking. But that's what we are. Love it or leave it. As long as we're honest about it, and not deceitful and corrupt, the process is what it is, and any grievances people have are their own cross to bear. Otherwise, mount a campaign to end it if you're that put off. Seems to have worked for all those folks who vote "because they can." Or not, cause you're free to do whatever, so long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's rights, right? I know I'm being elitist, that doesn't make me wrong. Being a responsible citizen means that you know for what you're voting. Of course you have the freedom to vote for someone because you like their tie or something stupid like that, but it doesn't mean that you should. I mean, you have the freedom to say whatever you want. (I believe the First Amendment at any time, anyplace in public) But that doesn't mean it's responsible to shout racial slurs in the ghetto while you're pushing a baby in a stroller. _________________ Power is only pain It’s probably better to have him inside the tent pissing out, than outside the tent pissing in. "Can we get control of an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws of nature, such as self preservation?" -memo from 1952 Project ARTICHOKE 
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