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 Post subject: How come we never thought of this?Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:30 am 
Ok, so there has been grumbing and mumbling and other general signs of dissent and displeasure at the way Eisley has been pushed (or lack thereof) by the WB, but why didn't we ever think of this idea? We should contact Eisley's publicist from the WB! I'm sure WB didn't think Eisley's fan base was a big enough group to merit further pushing but perhaps if we had made an effort to show some good ole support for the band by contacting WB, it might have spurred them into action. I mean, we've used the Laughing City for mass attacks on polls and such, why can't we have mass emails? Maybe some one with eloquence and music business know how can come up with some sort of a form letter that all the citizens could paste into an email and send to: Publicist: Nikki.Herceg Nikki.Herceg@wbr.com Gabrielle.Allen@wbr.com (these people are according to what Boyd has up on the business section of the Eisley website) Maybe this is just naive thinking on my part, but who knows. Perhaps we can spur enough action from Warner Brothers for the next album (whenever that happens to come out) and Eisley can see the results it deserves! _________________ Say something witty, dammit! http://kimschaefer.bandcamp.com/ http://youtube.com/kimschaefermusic |
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Post subject: Re: How come we never thought of this? Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:40 am
rockchick1959 wrote: Perhaps we can spur enough action from Warner Brothers for the next album (whenever that happens to come out) and Eisley can see the results it deserves! actually, Sherri said in an interview, "our record label really wants us to go back into the studio and make another album after this tour is over (speaking of the Combinations Tour)." not exactly those words, but those words are pretty dang close to what she said. so i'd say that WB doesn't need a lot of pushing for them to go back into the studio. but i still say that WB should be pushing for Eisley harder than they have been. _________________ cynlovescandy wrote: kulvir wrote: I bet R. Kelly approves of peeing in the shower. The world is R. Kelly's shower. It's a golden world. Nowhere Man wrote: mr pine wrote: is there a difference between dubstep and techno?
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Post subject: Re: How come we never thought of this? Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:59 pm
I think this is a pretty good idea. Here's my suggestion for a cut-and-paste fan onslaught letter. Dear Ms. Herceg and Ms. Allen, I'm a fan of Eisley, and I obtained your contact information through their website. I'm writing today to share my thoughts about the way Warner Brothers is handling the band. Last August Eisley released Combinations, an album that deserved massive amounts of publicity and attention. It's been nearly a year since the album was released, and it seems like Eisley and Combinations just haven't gotten a lot of promotion in that time. There was talk of making a viral video for the first single, "Invasion," and then making a bigger-budget video that would be pushed to stations like MTV and Fuse. That second video never happened, and none of the other great songs on Combinations have been selected for singles. In addition to singles and videos, other promotional avenues are open: new artists often get a spot on the search computers in music retailers like Barnes & Noble, for instance, and allowing stores to play Combinations over their PA systems is a simple an effective way to spread the word. One thing the band themselves would surely love (since they visit this particular business so frequently) is if copies of Combinations were sold in Starbucks. There are limitless opportunities for spreading the word about Eisley's fantastic music, and it's disheartening to see that they have to miss out on so many of them. I've heard that WB is pushing Eisley to get back into the studio and record some more songs. That's great, but I don't want the door to close on Combinations before it's had a chance to reach as many new ears as possible. I realize you are very busy promoting many artists, but I just wanted to express my concern about this issue and let you know that the fans really do care about Eisley's future in the music world, and we're watching closely. Thank you very much for your time. Sincerely, _____________ _________________ INTELLECT AND ROMANCE OVER BRUTE FORCE AND CYNICISM Smokemonster |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:09 pm
Yeah I want to get more CDs but recordings expencive and alot of record companies are having a hard time right now so they'd probly only want the big money makers in there... So what we need to do is get then on the top priority list!!! _________________ "Unicorns, Sheep, and Rabbits dance in my dreams'' |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:36 pm
pumamina wrote: Yeah I want to get more CDs but recordings expencive
and alot of record companies are having a hard time right now so they'd probly only want the big money makers in there... So what we need to do is get then on the top priority list!!! Recording is not a problem. Warner Brothers is pushing Eisley to get back into the studio right away. The problem is that they haven't properly promoted Combinations yet. If WB handled Eisley like they were supposed to, they would be the big money makers. _________________ INTELLECT AND ROMANCE OVER BRUTE FORCE AND CYNICISM Smokemonster |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:01 pm
I don't think everyone sending a form letter will accomplish anything, other than annoying them. If you want to send a heartfelt email, you'll have to write it yourself. Everyone signing off on the same email is too canned. Saellys wrote: pumamina wrote: Yeah I want to get more CDs but recordings expencive
and alot of record companies are having a hard time right now so they'd probly only want the big money makers in there... So what we need to do is get then on the top priority list!!! Recording is not a problem. Warner Brothers is pushing Eisley to get back into the studio right away. The problem is that they haven't properly promoted Combinations yet. If WB handled Eisley like they were supposed to, they would be the big money makers. Seems record companies are looking for optimal profits and not taking chances, and in the end that is to everyone's detriment (including the label). Music sales are down across the board? Well, they will need to work it a little more then. Eisley is a brand that will need built over time. Same as 100 other bands sitting in the same boat on the label, wondering when their promotion is coming. I don't know what the answer is. It's really frustrating that the promotion hasn't grown as the music has. |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:19 am
my thoughtds on the subject... sometimes it hapens, sometimes it doesn't. let the chips fall where thy may. who knows, too MUCH pushing may well push someone off the deep end. me? I'm fine with eisley not being rockstars or whatever, being huge names, and I'm pretty sure thay don't mind too much either. just let everything unfold. obsessively pursuing the subject probably won't help. |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:30 am
vintage_snowflake wrote: my thoughtds on the subject...
sometimes it hapens, sometimes it doesn't. let the chips fall where thy may. who knows, too MUCH pushing may well push someone off the deep end. me? I'm fine with eisley not being rockstars or whatever, being huge names, and I'm pretty sure thay don't mind too much either. just let everything unfold. obsessively pursuing the subject probably won't help. There is nothing wrong with fans wanting to see Eisley get their due as soon as possible. They've been making music for ten years, and signed for half that time. If Warner Brothers appeared to be making any effort, I'd be more inclined to cut some slack. I'm fine with Eisley not being huge names, but I want to see them make a living off their music and that won't happen unless WB pushes their albums. _________________ INTELLECT AND ROMANCE OVER BRUTE FORCE AND CYNICISM Smokemonster |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:42 am
Harassing people at work is not gonna solve any problems. These people answer to budgets and higher-ups that we have no way of dealing with. If WB doesn't see any merit in pushing a record, they wont do it. Getting 15-20 e-mails from radical fans will make them annoyed or entertained. |
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:07 am
Not a good idea. 1. Publicists work as hard as they can; they're usually juggling a lot of work at one time, and telling them they haven't done enough to make a band more popular is going to piss them off, at the very least. Besides, that's just the label PR. That's not including online PR, or tour PR, or management PR. 2. Publicity for Combinations is most likely over. Publicists only work on active records; if a record isn't a big seller or spawns a great amount of publicity after 2-3 months, the label simply moves on. I recall Boyd saying something about their last tour being the final Combinations tour, which, if you think about it, came a LOT quicker than the end of touring for Room Noises. 3. If Eisley is no longer a "priority" with the label--which seems to be an undercurrent around here as of late--then writing to publicists won't solve anything. I remember a band that was signed to a major label about two years ago, and were given a promotions budget of 17K. That's a pauper's pittance, and it accounted for about a month. No wonder; the band was dropped about a month after its label released its debut, and the record sank like a stone. 4. I have a feeling that the band and the management have already said what you've been saying. 5. Labels like fans' money and they don't really care about anything else the fans have to say. If you send a form letter, the label is going to think, 'The band organized this,' and it may make the situation for the band even worse, as it would look like the band's unhappy and are using 'the fans' to manipulate things--and if things are tenuous at best, something like that might make things even moreso. _________________ "Die Sonne scheint noch" -- Sophie Scholl <3 <3 <3 |
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Post subject: my opinion Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:27 pm
I personally would love for Eisley to become a big popular band but I sort of like where they are now. ok so I am condridicting my self, yea I know i want them to be famous but when they become mainstream or popular thats when you get all the groupies that know 1 song and call them selves number one fans... And then you get al the knock offs and sooner or later the band is done and out like washed up goods with no label supporting them after the buzz dies. I like Eisley where they are but I would love to see them prosper if thats what they want. I do have to say though...putting Eisley in starbucks WOULD SO ROCK MY WORLD HARDCORE!! haha and they do play them in Barnes and Noble cause here in lafayette Louisiana were everything is the "popular music" I hear Eisley over the PA system in B&N every few days or so. _________________ twitter.com/justcameron follow me 
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:43 am
people like eisley small and obscure...but these guys are making a living as a band! they need some sort of income and the way to make money in the industry is to get big. |
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:49 am
crazeemunkeyz wrote: people like eisley small and obscure...but these guys are making a living as a band! they need some sort of income and the way to make money in the industry is to get big. Exactly. There's also a difference between "big" and "I will wind up dried up and empty like Britney," so I'm not terribly worried. It's big heads and hunger for more that usually get people in trouble. I don't expect that from the band. _________________ My photography:www.jamiemphoto.com You can't spell awesome without emo...backwards! -Julie definingawesome (11:44:11 PM): Eisley shivers our timbers |
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:55 am
TheAntrider wrote: crazeemunkeyz wrote: people like eisley small and obscure...but these guys are making a living as a band! they need some sort of income and the way to make money in the industry is to get big. Exactly. There's also a difference between "big" and "I will wind up dried up and empty like Britney," so I'm not terribly worried. It's big heads and hunger for more that usually get people in trouble. I don't expect that from the band. yeah i think that the band will be able to remain awesome if they ever hit the big leagues. |
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Post subject: Re: How come we never thought of this? Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:21 am
Music_Lover wrote: rockchick1959 wrote: Perhaps we can spur enough action from Warner Brothers for the next album (whenever that happens to come out) and Eisley can see the results it deserves! actually, Sherri said in an interview, "our record label really wants us to go back into the studio and make another album after this tour is over (speaking of the Combinations Tour)." not exactly those words, but those words are pretty dang close to what she said. so i'd say that WB doesn't need a lot of pushing for them to go back into the studio. but i still say that WB should be pushing for Eisley harder than they have been. maybe i wasn't quite clear... i didn't mean push to make sure there is a next album (although that is quite vital in the future now that I think about it) I meant advertising push of the next album release. also, I know this may have been a bad idea. I was just fishing for anything that might help the band by harnessing our fan power. I'm not saying I want Eisley to be Britney sized superstars (although if that's in the cards, it's in the cards). What I AM saying is that the band deserves support from both us and their label so they can survive and keep making music that we love. that's the bottom line. _________________ Say something witty, dammit! http://kimschaefer.bandcamp.com/ http://youtube.com/kimschaefermusic |
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