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Joined: 18 Nov 2003 | Posts: 147 | Location: whiskeytown
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Hey Kevin, A little while ago, someone else posted the same question, and I found where someone else had figured out the basic chords for the songs on Laughing City, and I figured out the basic chords for the songs on Marvelous Things. Here's the link: Eisley tabs Hopefully that'll help. I'm sure that those aren't 100% perfect, but they should get you going on the songs. Good luck... Ben |
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Joined: 21 Nov 2003 | Posts: 2290 |
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Unregistered had a site for the Laughing City tabs for various instruments, but he slacked off and---holy crap, ali just PM'ed me AGAIN in about 30 seconds since I PM'ed him! Oh yeah...Unregistered slacked off and now the site is down. _________________ If the end of the world has proper noodles I'll probably be okay with it. |
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Joined: 29 Jun 2003 | Posts: 11069 | Location: Prague
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i think eisley just make up a bunch of weird stuff and they (the girls) don't always know what chords they're playing. Eric Nicholson would come over and sit next to Stacy to teach her stuff, and she'd be playing songs and he'd just laugh. "why are you laughing?" she exclaimed? and he exclaimed: "becuz...you're not supposed to play those chords...and nobody plays progressions like that...but it's great....it's great... don't ever take music theory; it'll just mess your head up; i wish i could un learn all that crap." and she exclaimed: "ok. well, great then...umm, my dad makes great coffee; wunt some?". (well, all except the last part. Eric only comes over to bogart my great coffee.) the end. _________________ EisleyWebGuy "The industrialists never saw the fruit of their own labor - Post Moderism, which I now proclaim as dead. Their forefathers digital revolutionists, have accelerated the final resolve by punctuating an end to our chaotic journey with a new manifesto and a new era: The Age of Meaning." (manifesto's sold separate) Welcome: Illuminists |
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Joined: 04 Nov 2002 | Posts: 5180 | Location: Tyler, Texas
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Joined: 30 Nov 2003 | Posts: 3787 |
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seriously? let's say i've been taking guitar lessons since february, one every other week, except for 2 months during summer and 1 month and a half right now. what if i just started looking at guitar tabs, learning songs, taking chords i liked from those songs, things like that, and building my own writing style from that. am i too far in to unlearn, or...yeah. i donno....never mind. _________________ If the end of the world has proper noodles I'll probably be okay with it. |
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Joined: 29 Jun 2003 | Posts: 11069 | Location: Prague
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I think there are definitely a lot of advantages to not having any real lessons or anything. As I took lessons more and more, I became more frustrated because they were just boxing me in as to what I would even think to write or play. Without all of those restrictions, it's much easier to come up with unique, fresh-sounding ideas (for the most part). However, a certain level of structure and technical know-how can help, too. I quit my guitar lessons after a couple of years, though, once I realized that I knew more than enough to get me by. Since then, I've gradually been able to come up with more unique ideas, as I've broken away from all of the stuff that I was taught. EF, I think that if you (or anyone) understands enough to be able to play chords and figure things out by ear to some extent, there's no real need for lessons unless you're striving to be able to reach a certain skill level. I'm VERY glad that I quit taking lessons after a couple of years, but I do appeciate what they did give me. It was just a pain to be backed into an ever-shrinking musical corner, if you will. If you absolutely can't play much of anything well, maybe it's a good idea to stick with a teacher for a little while until you reach your goal. I've just realized how much more I get from picking things out on my own and, in turn, developing my own style (like you said). Anyway, that was awfully long-winded. I guess it was quite indecisive, too, but I hope it helped in some way, shape, or form. |
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Joined: 21 Nov 2003 | Posts: 2290 |
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Music theory is overrated. All the people I know who are composition majors just use it to make people feel ridiculous. "Oh, that's just I VI IV V, quite simple really!" I know basically nothing about theory, I just play what sounds good. After writing, our other guitar player usually figures out what I'm doing and explains the theory to me. |
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Joined: 20 Aug 2003 | Posts: 2261 | Location: Ames, Iowa
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Joined: 09 Oct 2003 | Posts: 2328 | Location: Lala land
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Well don't think taking lessons will retard your creativity. John Fruscante is practically a master of theory and i don't think his depth of knowledge about the guitar can be rivaled by anyone else these days yet he's the most innovative and most influential and original guitarist of the last 25 years. Don't knock taking lessons. _________________ http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=KevinNaaaaaa |
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Joined: 24 Dec 2003 | Posts: 1350 | Location: Los Angeles
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I've never taken lessons from an actual teacher, though I did study music theory (Modes, scales, key construction, etc.) from various books and websites and I definitely think it payed off. Going through scales and modes helps a great deal when it comes to finger movement and developing an ear to what sounds good to you. I think theory is great and should be learned to some extent by everyone who picks up an instrument, so long as that's not the only trick in your bag and you don't base your playing on it. _________________ I think that it's brainless to assume that making changes to your window's view will give a new perspective.
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Joined: 26 Jul 2003 | Posts: 754 | Location: Good ole' Goshen, Oh-hi-Oh
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these are all great. i'm a drummer, but took about 7 years of piano prior, and a few jazz theory classes later. they definitely helped me out quite a bit. i think that i can write much better now than i could have without lessons, but i'm not much of the creative type in the first place. it gives me more tools to work with. some knowlegdge is good, but don't overdo it. i was heavily involved in music all through highschool, and my parents were both music majors, but i decided long ago not to go into a music major, you just can't smother yourself in teachers that tell you how to hear things...(like reading comprehension classes) lessons can help, but it depends much more on the person natural talent and ability... as heard in eisley. _________________ squeakn squeak |
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Joined: 04 Jan 2004 | Posts: 215 |
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I wish i was more musically inclined, someday i would like to learn piano. I'm a very analytical person so I would probably have to take lessons or teach myself in a non-creative way(books). My best friend plays guitar and I asked him how he can just play-on-the-fly so to speak and he said it just comes out of his hands. btw, I'll give the tabs HTML that has been floating around a permanent home on my site tonight. _________________ "Religions have started on lesser revelations" - investor on MarketWatch.com |
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Joined: 01 Jul 2003 | Posts: 4403 | Location: Dallas
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I am torn on lessons. I think it helps to know enough to form kind of a map or a skeletal structure. Too much learning, and you're a robot who plays to brag about some stupid techie thing you did on some song. I would name names of music/bands/sweedish guitarists, but it's uber-lame. Not that anyone cares ... but I was in a similar boat when I started design/journalism. I didn't want to know how to do it "properly." I was afraid it would kill the art. (Yes, there is a good amount of art and creativity in it. Stop looking at me ... ) But I learned that when you know at least enough of the "rules," that gives you a great ability to use, manipulate, stretch and break them alltogether — all while being "good" at whatever it is. Yikes, I'm longwinded this morning, and no one cares about my design/journalism geekiness ... Sorry. What was the topic? _________________ My photography:www.jamiemphoto.com You can't spell awesome without emo...backwards! -Julie definingawesome (11:44:11 PM): Eisley shivers our timbers |
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Joined: 15 Aug 2003 | Posts: 25185 | Location: East Texas
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It seems like we're all pretty much on the same page, then... I'm not sure that I got my point across very clearly, but it was basically the same as what you just said, Jamie--it's great to feel free to explore different creative avenues without being bound by all of the "rules," but it's also very helpful to have a basic outline of what tools you can use to get the job done. |
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Joined: 21 Nov 2003 | Posts: 2290 |
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