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 Post subject: DichotomyPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:18 am 
Has anyone else noticed the enormous difference between the tracking of this new album and the last one? It is mind boggling. You should go back and read some of the journals from back then. They are so depressing. Especially compared to what's going on with the new CD. I would imagine that anyone who is wondering how the next CD will differ from the last one could get a decent idea by comparing journal entries. I assume most of you are reading the present ones, but here are some excerpts from last time around: Quote: We put the "no visitor's please.... downtime" sign on the door again. Too many "Hi, We're here." people stopping by...every day, every night... We never get to just be alone... constantly pouring out on others, if I do say so even if it sounds like arrogant boasting. But, it's no reflection on any certain people, so, if you've been over lately and think that's you... just figure it might not be. But there's just too much going on...to many pressures to deal with right now.
But when we put the sign up, we're left to face our problems alone...so, eventually, we take it off and it all starts over again. That's life...cyclical. So, here we are, having downtime... And, acurately, everyone seems down. sigh. Quote: The Thing is... I'm just getting tired of all this. Eisley is home writing songs for a record that could be finished... everyone is getting frustrated. Their producer is frustrated, management is frustrated, the label is frustrated. I vote that we put the fans in charge... whaddaya say?!! OK! It's settled. Quote: No. seriously. The Thing is: Dang. What's so wrong with Vintage People? And Golly Sandra? Those songs are freaking amazing. Well, anyway, so say's me. I'm starting to get weary. I mean, I like these guys making the decisions.... They're cool people; even more, they're freinds. So, it's not like I'm angry at them; I just don't always understand. I tell them this stuff... They have good answers but the next day, I'm always scratching my head again. Quote: In the wake of feeling so troubled about all the goings on...the disquieting turbulance; the feelings of uncertainty, the hurdles... the questions...etc. Maybe it's nothing more than labor pains (don't worry; I'm not going into some birth metaphor). Or perhaps, more acurately, these are problems at birth. Either way, the question for the day is: What is the reality...the gravity...the beauty of Eisley's perdicament?
So, I was thinking this morning... it's not like everything is bad. We shouldn't be so stressed. What's the worst thing that could happen? (I won't elaborate) But... overall, Eisley is in a good place. Even in a perfect world, there are stresses, obstacles, mountains... trials. So, It's like, they're at the precipice of an amazing opportunity... one that few bands get to enjoy. SO WHAT if there are battles. Every part of life has battles. Not to sound cliche' - but, isn't "it all good"? How could all of this excitement be bad? ("glass half empty/glass half full") There's much work to be done. If there are battles to fight, I think Eisley just looks to win them as peacefully and with as much integrity and grace as possible. Last time they were happy with the songs; this time they are extremely happy with the songs, happy with the production of them, happy with pretty much everything as far as I can tell. Last time around, I thought Room Noises was a very good CD, so I expect the new CD to be freakin legendary. -Mark |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:24 am
I've definitely taken note of the difference. I can't find even a hint of frustration or negativity so far toward the process this time around. I hope things continue to go as well, because this is awesome. _________________ My photography:www.jamiemphoto.com You can't spell awesome without emo...backwards! -Julie definingawesome (11:44:11 PM): Eisley shivers our timbers |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:26 am
Nice comparison. They do seem generally much happier with the way recording has gone. Nevertheless, compromises have been made on this album too. Remember how they were set on recording it in Tyler? And management was going to fight to the death so they would get to? Didn't happen. I think a lot of the angst during the recording of Room Noises came from that being their first experience on a major label recording a full-length album. This time around they're prepared for the disappointments and compromises. That's not to say that everything Boyd blogged in those entries was just growing pains and the excessive influence of the label had nothing to do with it; I'm just saying that now that they're more experienced they can spend less time stressed over the little things and be totally committed to getting the album done, mostly the way they want it done. And I think it's awesome that WB didn't even hear any of the songs until a few days ago. _________________ INTELLECT AND ROMANCE OVER BRUTE FORCE AND CYNICISM Smokemonster |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:27 am
Good point. A happy band is one that produces the music that they like and believe in. Which is why they're in a band. LP 2 should be amazing, then. Even though i don't listen to them, i like how Sharleen Spiteri, once noted how Texas likes to go through the album nit-picking bits like the length of time between tracks. If they're happy, i'm happy. _________________ She is handsome, she is pretty, she is the girl from Belfast City, she is courtin' one two three, please won't you tell me who is she? TheClassicRomance wrote: Facebook is a dirty skank blog! |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:36 am
Saellys wrote: Nice comparison. They do seem generally much happier with the way recording has gone.
Nevertheless, compromises have been made on this album too. Remember how they were set on recording it in Tyler? And management was going to fight to the death so they would get to? Didn't happen. That was by choice, though. They could have picked a different producer and made that happen, from what I've gathered. (Just for the record: I think it's perfectly reasonbale of Mr. Gibbs if he did require that they work in his studio if they were going to use his services, especially after seeing what all they did.) So they were given the freedom of working in Tyler, but they would still have to find a producer who would/could do that. Or that's what I gather, at least. _________________ My photography:www.jamiemphoto.com You can't spell awesome without emo...backwards! -Julie definingawesome (11:44:11 PM): Eisley shivers our timbers |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:46 am
TheAntrider wrote: Saellys wrote: Nice comparison. They do seem generally much happier with the way recording has gone.
Nevertheless, compromises have been made on this album too. Remember how they were set on recording it in Tyler? And management was going to fight to the death so they would get to? Didn't happen. That was by choice, though. They could have picked a different producer and made that happen, from what I've gathered. (Just for the record: I think it's perfectly reasonbale of Mr. Gibbs if he did require that they work in his studio if they were going to use his services, especially after seeing what all they did.) So they were given the freedom of working in Tyler, but they would still have to find a producer who would/could do that. Or that's what I gather, at least. Doesn't seem consistent with what I heard earlier this year about the band's management being totally devoted to the cause of them recording in their hometown. If indeed Richard Gibbs required them to record at his studio and they were keen enough on working with him to do it, that's awesome. It's just that when I spoke with Boyd back in April and he said they'd be recording in Tyler, there was no mention of it being dependent on which producer they got. 
The band seemed so dead set on the idea for so long, and when they up and went to Malibu it was really surprising to me. But if the recording process went as smoothly and drama-free as Boyd's journals would have us believe, then I guess it worked out for the best. _________________ INTELLECT AND ROMANCE OVER BRUTE FORCE AND CYNICISM Smokemonster |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:56 am
Saellys wrote: Doesn't seem consistent with what I heard earlier this year about the band's management being totally devoted to the cause of them recording in their hometown. If indeed Richard Gibbs required them to record at his studio and they were keen enough on working with him to do it, that's awesome. It's just that when I spoke with Boyd back in April and he said they'd be recording in Tyler, there was no mention of it being dependent on which producer they got.
The band seemed so dead set on the idea for so long, and when they up and went to Malibu it was really surprising to me. But if the recording process went as smoothly and drama-free as Boyd's journals would have us believe, then I guess it worked out for the best. That was definitely the case back then, but when they decided they wanted to work with Richard Gibbs, they ended up having to make a choice. I'm sure if they'd have pushed for it, they could have made a good record in Tyler even if it was self-produced. But at this point I'm not hearing anyone even getting close to saying "How much better would the record have been if..." But I know I say that a heck of a lot about Room Noises. I'm nearly 100% certain that this was nothing like on the first CD when Boyd said "Aaron Sprinkle will be producing the full length" and then that ended up not happening. -Mark |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:03 pm
Haha..Aaron Sprinkle. Beautiful contrast though, I had never thought about that. Could it be because I haven't been around that long? Yes. But it just makes me so much happier to see how well everything is going. They're bringing everything up a notch and they're taking us with them. We don't have to worry about this album. |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:39 pm
I think Boyd made the point earlier on that WB has just given them a lot more freedom with this album. That's always encouraging. _________________ 
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:07 pm
brilliant post. i've never been at liberty to share openly about the frustrations and depressions that affected eisley during the making of RN. Most of that stuff is just vaulted... and will remain buried forever. Not like some deep dark secret; just stuff that doesn't do any good to dredge up i guess. We're on chapter 2. I wouldn't even want to write a book about chapter 1. I'm just glad that things are happy now. On recording in Tyler. The band could have waved off on Richard, but they carefully considered... and thought it wise not to. Richard could have easily waved off on Eisley too, but didn't. Both are very thankful for the experience and the result of the decision. Recording in Tyler could have been good too, but it seems to have all worked out for the best. Really, the whole "we aren't budging! we're going to record in Tyler!" was because they were just burnt out on touring and wanted to be home. And, they actually did end up at home for a long time... which gave them the will and the inspiration to pick back up and take on this record in Malibu (no way they would have done it in LA again tho'...). Anyway, great observation. We've been having this same discussion over and over. bd _________________ EisleyWebGuy "The industrialists never saw the fruit of their own labor - Post Moderism, which I now proclaim as dead. Their forefathers digital revolutionists, have accelerated the final resolve by punctuating an end to our chaotic journey with a new manifesto and a new era: The Age of Meaning." (manifesto's sold separate) Welcome: Illuminists |
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