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 Post subject: Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:45 am 
like i said in that last similar thread: Kim, are you totally sure Weston and Garron aren't bored and pulling a prank on everyone? think about it: weston's first journals in a long time. two similar posts sort of contradicting each other -one says Sherri has lack of passion -one says Sherri has too much 'emo' passion maybe Sherri found a dead rat at a venue and put it in his stuff or something and now he's getting her back...  _________________ I am Torgo. I take care of the place while the Master is away. |
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Post subject: Re: Praise for Eisley (Something Other Than) Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:13 am
I am not really noticing this tempo change, and sure it is not the best for people that want to sing along. But, you did come to the concert to hear the band. As for the sound, it is no fault of Mark's, I'd say it's all about the venues in which they are playing. Did they play the same types of clubs on the FN tour? Because I am seeing way more complaints this time around about venues, some of which are valid (white rabbit, anyone?) While I do notice the change in the way sherri is performing, I do not think her motions make her 'too emo" or they look awkward or anything. I just think it's a sign that she is totally engaged with the songs. About her vocals, I don't so much care about how they sound as I do how she treats her vocal chords. If they are strong and healthy, I'd say keep on keepin' on, sherri. Alot of that might have to do with the instruments overpowering her. Which is why, hahaha city, i suggest that you take these things into consideration and wait for the next acoustic tour 
I understand where you are coming from, because I share alot of the same concerns (they deserve to play in nicer venues with better sound, I hope sherri's voice is okay and healthy). But the band is great regardless of any of that, and they'll be great as long as they make wise decisions
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:15 am
[quote="lazerbith"]these comments on sherris performance-ship just prove that she will NEVER make you/anyone happy. last dude said that they stood there like immovable emotionless icebergs...and then you say she is TOO emo with her stage presence... i think the best advice is that you should go out and create your own band so you can do the sound and the emo moves however YOU want to! if sherri wants to get raw and tear out her hair or cry or scream or stand there like a hardrock mountain.. thats her perogative, you know? you cant mold musicians into what makes YOU comfortable, unfortunately. with that said, they are all grown up. they are not the little teenagers they used to be. and they probably wont perform the same show as they did when they were teenagers. such is life.[/quote] No actually, any of the band members, including Sherri, do have the capability of making me happy, but that’s NOT what they’re there for. And I never hoped to mold them into something they’re not either. I never said Sherri should go back to the way she was before. I simply said I wasn’t too crazy about her new thing. That’s where you got me wrong. And no thanks to the advice on starting an Emoo band of my own. 
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:25 am
[quote="Caley"]Eisley should do whatever the heck they feel like doing. We pay to see them. Sure, some may feel as if it's their "right" to critique or knitpick a show because they paid. But, really, you're paying to see them as they are in that moment. It's pretty much a guarantee that you're going to get something that no one else is ever going to see 'cause it's live and unscripted.[/quote] Of course. It’s a given that Eisley can do whatever the heck they want. No problemo, I accept that, I don’t stifle. It would also be nice if my opinions weren’t stifled either. And don't worry, this is no money-issue for me. Wow, whaddaya know, today really is Misunderstood Day for me.. 
I sure do hope some of you guys are reading my first post carefully. |
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Joined: 08 Oct 2007 | Posts: 21 | Location: CA
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:31 am
First off - topic creator, you almost described my situation spot on. I heard Eisley from my girlfriend and was very impressed overall. Especially given the age of the band. I'm not an Eisley fanatic like most of the posters here, btw. They have a beautiful sound though that I think will get better over time. BTW - I posted the "negative" review in the Sacramento thread. Some people are asking why people with negative comments bother posting. I think we do it because we'd like see the problem fixed - and it could be fixed so simply: turn it down! Eisley is not a hard rock band - they need to play softer in the smaller clubs they play in. Is it their fault? Probably not, but I think they could pull the right strings to fix it. Everyone talking about song speed, harmony, emotion, precision, etc - all that is nit picky if you ask me. If you can't get control over the speakers you have nothing. Well, I shouldn't say that - they are pretty cute 
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:39 am
I don't see how the band is to take this "criticism" to improve their performance. Do you think that you're helping the band? They're doing what they're doing the best they can right now. (near) Perfection won't come overnight. They know what they might need to improve on and they don't need to come here to read that Sherri might have ad-libbed a lyric/word/note and how that pissed you off. The sound "issue" has been talked about by their sound engineer over and over again. He does the best he can with the situation. Let it be. It's too late now. Next time just go up to him and make sure he knows what he's doing before you have to sit through the set. |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:42 am
A few points about my version of reality: Patrons of the arts feel entitled to criticize art. Especially when they have paid for it. If the artist doesn't like the criticism, they are free to ignore it, make changes to their style, or stop exhibiting it publicly. Eisley sponsors this forum for its fans to come here and discuss all things Eisley and beyond. Not everything said will be flattering. See above. Everyone who posts here does so because they are tremendous fans of the band. Otherwise they wouldn't have sought this place out, registered, and taken the time to write their thoughts. In the rules section of this website it says that screen names do not have number of posts below them because it doesn't matter how long you've participated. The fact that you are here is good enough as long as you play by the rules (paraphrased). Thus, why are people judging "newbies" just because they don't agree with the topic? Eisley is in the final stage of a nationwide tour. They have touched a lot of people recently. Expect new blood and new ideas. Most often, people heap the most amount of criticism on the things they love the most. Remember when Sinead O'Connor tore up a picture of The Pope during a live performance on Saturday Night Live. Do you know that Sinead O'Connor is now an ordained priest in a liberal offshoot of the Catholic Church? She did what she did not out of hate for Catholicism, but for an undying love for it. I know that seems like an odd reference, but think about it. Love to all. |
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Joined: 08 May 2008 | Posts: 80 | Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:43 am
Yeah, Motion Sickness, everything you just said was it. I don't lay the blame on them either, because a whole bunch of other factors come into play. But there are always possibilites they can work with, take it or leave it. Always room for improvement, so to say. |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:44 am
piperjay23 wrote: Everyone who posts here does so because they are tremendous fans of the band. Otherwise they wouldn't have sought this place out, registered, and taken the time to write their thoughts. That is so very untrue. So so so. |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:53 am
Thanks, PrincessStripAndFall for the openmindedness. And yes, I am looking forward to an Eisley acoustic show.
I went to a show during the FN tour at the Avalon, and it was amaazing. But I still wonder why the 2003 show that I went to at the Pomona Glass House was way better than last week's show at the same venue.. |
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Joined: 08 Oct 2007 | Posts: 21 | Location: CA
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:54 am
piperjay23 and hahahcity, your opinions of what Eisley should be doing are completely opposite of each other. You've cancelled each other out. _________________ 
we're really not alone, we have each other |
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Joined: 13 Jan 2007 | Posts: 2600 | Location: sitting in his nowhere land, TX
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:55 am
hahaha city wrote: But I still wonder why the 2003 show that I went to at the Pomona Glass House was way better than last week's show at the same venue.. 2003 was 5 years ago.... |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:57 am
Yep that's cool. That brings more spiciness to the mix, now doesn't it, Nowhere Man? I love it.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:58 am
their voices have changed completely since then. you have to decide what you like better. more accuracy in performance, less mature sound (2003-4) or more style and confidence in ability (now) |
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Joined: 12 Sep 2005 | Posts: 1182 | Location: Houston
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 11:06 am
piperjay23 wrote: Thus, why are people judging "newbies" just because they don't agree with the topic?
It's not because you guys are newbs, it's just weird to sign up and spell out your criticisms without introducing yourself or something. Signing up for a message board is easy and people sometimes do register at boards just to trash a band. You can't fault us for having some mild suspicions under these circumstances. _________________ Kulvir. |
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