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 Post subject: Ten Cent Blues. What's that about?Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:52 pm 
It sounds like an argument put to music and the song does not have a chorus, which makes it very unusual. Pulling that sort of thing is Brian Wilson or Paul McCartney league stuff. They don't quite pull it off, but come close. The melody is stellar... but I would have refined the lyrics a bit more. |
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:42 pm
It's about 4 minutes. Obviously it seems to be about a girl that feels like she's just a plain dime a dozen girl and doesn't stand a chance against some other girl. Other than that I don't know. I looked it up on some song meanings site and there was a pretty funny explanation someone came up with. They figured it was about a religious girl coming to terms with being a lesbian because of the first few lines. When I first heard the song from a live show recording before it came out on the cd I didn't like it much. Because of the sound quality and structure of the song I couldn't really follow it or tell what was going on. But yeah that was only the first time, I like it now. _________________ 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:15 pm
I think, despite the Stacylanguage (and she did write it all herself) that it's quite obvious. Just listen over and over, and put your mind in (Teenage) Girl Mode. |
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:18 pm
It's hard to like at first because there is no hook. If these girls would have written a chorus it would have been their first big hit. Musical oddballs like myself get drawn to songs like this, but it has potential to be a big song. I am sure this has been said before. Also this section is a bit awkward: In a way it's making me crazy In a sense that it's making me stronger A likely chance, and it's probably proven In the end we'll all walk away it's like a middle 8 section at the end of the song. Only MCcartney could pull that off and write a hit song. |
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:19 pm
princesstripandfall wrote: I think, despite the Stacylanguage
(and she did write it all herself) that it's quite obvious. Just listen over and over, and put your mind in (Teenage) Girl Mode. I am a 40 year old guy with no teenagers around. That's sorta impossible. |
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Joined: 18 Mar 2010 | Posts: 140 | Location: the dub side of the moon
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:23 pm
A song that leaves everyone guessing as to the originally intended meaning are more clever than songs with an in your face hook. Just enjoy it for whatever you imagine while listening to it and don't worry if your image matches the original intent. |
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:25 pm
CUBSWINWORLDSERIES wrote: A song that leaves everyone guessing as to the originally intended meaning are more clever than songs with an in your face hook. Just enjoy it for whatever you imagine while listening to it and don't worry if your image matches the original intent. +1 _________________ You can't find love; you have to create it. Flickr |
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:04 pm
cynlovescandy wrote: CUBSWINWORLDSERIES wrote: A song that leaves everyone guessing as to the originally intended meaning are more clever than songs with an in your face hook. Just enjoy it for whatever you imagine while listening to it and don't worry if your image matches the original intent. +1 +1=2 It's always been one of my favorites, mostly because I was about 15 when the album came out and I related so well to the sentiment, and the lack of a hook made it so different from all other songs. |
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:38 pm
princesstripandfall wrote: I think, despite the Stacylanguage
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:22 am
John Locke4815 wrote: Also this section is a bit awkward:
In a way it's making me crazy In a sense that it's making me stronger A likely chance, and it's probably proven In the end we'll all walk away it's like a middle 8 section at the end of the song. Only MCcartney could pull that off and write a hit song. But it's not at the end of the song, so it's really just a bridge. 
I think you'll find that the lack of commercial success for any Eisley song has less to do with their deficiencies as songwriters and more to do with WB's deficiencies as a label. You've made a couple comparisons to the Beatles, and that's just setting Eisley up to fail. You ask what the song is about and say you would have refined the lyrics more... why? So they'd be less obscure? Not every song must have a readily apparent and accessible meaning. I adore "Ten Cent Blues" and wouldn't change a thing about it, and yes, I know stuff about writing songs too. Not trying to start crap here; I'm just saying. _________________ INTELLECT AND ROMANCE OVER BRUTE FORCE AND CYNICISM Smokemonster |
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:21 am
CUBSWINWORLDSERIES wrote: A song that leaves everyone guessing as to the originally intended meaning are more clever than songs with an in your face hook. Just enjoy it for whatever you imagine while listening to it and don't worry if your image matches the original intent. Are you telling me not to ask questions? Sorry that is something that I just won't do. Humans are curious, by nature we ask questions. |
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:27 am
Saellys wrote: John Locke4815 wrote: Also this section is a bit awkward:
In a way it's making me crazy In a sense that it's making me stronger A likely chance, and it's probably proven In the end we'll all walk away it's like a middle 8 section at the end of the song. Only MCcartney could pull that off and write a hit song. But it's not at the end of the song, so it's really just a bridge.
I think you'll find that the lack of commercial success for any Eisley song has less to do with their deficiencies as songwriters and more to do with WB's deficiencies as a label. You've made a couple comparisons to the Beatles, and that's just setting Eisley up to fail. You ask what the song is about and say you would have refined the lyrics more... why? So they'd be less obscure? Not every song must have a readily apparent and accessible meaning. I adore "Ten Cent Blues" and wouldn't change a thing about it, and yes, I know stuff about writing songs too. Not trying to start crap here; I'm just saying. You are way too defensive. I was complimenting them as songwriters and offering constructive criticism. To compare one to the McCartney or Wilson is a compliment of the highest order. Besides they are producing Beatlesque music so the comparison is a natural one. All record labels fail their artists so nothing is new there. That's been happening since records began being sold at the turn of the last century. A middle 8 is just another word for a bridge.
Some of the lyrics were awkward. I would have made them less awkward. I was cast into poverty. That phase is awkward and means everything and nothing at the same time. What is stacyspeak? I've never heard of that. What are you saying? 
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:30 am
gundamit wrote: princesstripandfall wrote: I think, despite the Stacylanguage
<snip> I agree. The songwriters have a lot of potential. I am glad I got all the CDs and EPs. |
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Joined: 18 Mar 2010 | Posts: 140 | Location: the dub side of the moon
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:28 am
John Locke4815 wrote: I was cast into poverty. That phase is awkward and means everything and nothing at the same time. What is stacyspeak? I've never heard of that. Don't act surprised that people are defending Eisley. This is the Eisley forum. Saying they don't quite pull something off is not constructive criticism, it's kind of rude, whether you intended it to be or not. This forum is for fans, not critics, if you know what I mean...
Also, it's "casted into poverty", I think...i.e. the "caste system". 
Stacyspeak is referring to Stacy's cryptic lyrics, I'm assuming. Don't get me wrong, I don't think you've done/said anything wrong. You just have to understand that people here are die hard Eisley fans, and a bit biased. In the music section, however, there are plenty of discussions involving other bands, where criticism is more widely accepted. _________________ You can't find love; you have to create it. Flickr |
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:40 am
... And I looked to see that it was she Just some abandoned little crook like me Adieu,adieu and fair thee well This was the ending plea ... |
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